Announcing Sam Brownback Day
Posted by Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett on August 7, 2007
Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ,
Sometime over the next day or so, this ministry will reach a milestone record of over 100,000 visitors in just under 3 months on the internet. Recently Tobin Maker, Resident Pastor here at Baptists For Brownback asked me how were to celebrate such an event. At first, I was unsure and it took me asking myself, What Would Jesus Do? Well, given Jesus would be just as supportive of Senator Sam Brownback as the next President of His United States of God as we are, I have decided to use this occasion to mark our deep and emphatic support for Sam.
On the day that we turn over receiving our 100,000 visitor, we will officially declare this Sam Brownback Day. For 24 hours, we will post on and speak of nothing but Sam Brownback and the issues that are important to him. United we shall celebrate the accomplishments and achievements of the best Christian, Conservative Presidential Candidate there is, Sam Brownback.
I cannot think of a finer way to commemorate this day than to honor someone as moral and upstanding as our next President.
YIC,
Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett
Christian, Republican, Biblical Authoritarian
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Confused said
The reason you hit that many visitors is because people saying, “Can you believe these people ARE SO RIGHTEOUS IN A WORLD FILLED WITH SIN AND DEBAUCHERY”, are linking to your site?
Confused said
SAM BROWNBACK 2008, yo!
La Mona said
Yea, the reason you’re getting so many visitors is because people just can’t believe that people could be that ignorant, and have to take a look.
Lynelle Bryant - USE Ministry Leader said
The one showing their ignorance would be you, La Mona. Through your own words you’ve become the laughing stock of many a blog I enjoy. Keep up the good work.
God Bless!
Lynelle
La Mona said
The reason you laugh is because I bring opposition, and no one likes opposition. I don’t agree with you, and you can’t argue with me, thus you resort to absolutely nothing in your response. Can you prove your statement there? I doubt it. (take this opportunity to try.) I have all the time in the world. I’ll wait.
Lynelle Bryant - USE Ministry Leader said
No, the reason many people laugh at you, not with you, is your poor impersonation of an educated young person. Oh yes, and the many other character impersonations you fail so miserably put forth. Your gig, as they say, is up, little girl. Sadly, even Christians allow themselves to succumb to the dark humor that is you. For that, I will pray for forgiveness. I really shouldn’t find humor in the socially challenged.
La Mona said
When have I acted as anything but myself? How have I acted poorly as an “educated young person” when that is the role that many people see me in? Anywho, back to that “gig”, care to prove anything dear? I’m afraid that at this point you still offer no proof for anything you have said. Now, without proof you don’t stand a chance at being taken seriously, now do you. Oh, and everyone in the room laughs at you with me. I am in no way socially challenged, in that I have many friends….how can one be socially challenged and still have a social life? Also, you know nothing of my personal life, so what expert are you to comment on it? You know nothing of me except what I have posted here…..and my social life was not something that I posted.
Try again. (without being baseless please. I shall return.)
blagh, blagh, blagh, blagh……… Typical La Mona comment. Typical poor character develpment. Typical idiocy. Give it a rest, the curtain is closing on your act.
WhoDat said
This is nothing shy of a brilliant idea. Could I pose an ‘idea’ for a thread?
I have been wondering who the lord will choose as President-to-be Brownbacks running mate, not that he needs one. I have several in mind myself, but it did occur to me that the lord may want to include a woman, considering the VP is a just a figurehead (except of course for blessed Dick Cheney) and can do no actual harm to our nation, I was thinking that the demure, sweet Ann Coulter (barring the fact she dresses like a hooker), or that fresh, young Bay Buchanan, or perhaps that brilliant (for a woman) Katherine Harris from Florida. Normally, I would add that darling, sensitive, earth mother, Michelle Malkin, but she is a foreigner, so she is out.
I humbly suggest this be a topic for a Brownback Day discussion. I am so curious the thoughts of the other supporters.
God Bless.
Lynelle Bryant - USE Ministry Leader said
Whodat, you can pose for anything you like, hon so long as you are fully clothed! I love your topic idea. Personally I would like to see Franklin Graham have a seat in the cabinet but perhaps not as VP. Anne Coulter is a brilliant author but she dresses like a hooker. Who wears little black dresses and heels at 7AM? She looks like she just walked out of a blame bar. Jeb Bush is a good choice or David Duke? There are a few good, strong conservatives likely to walk with Sam.
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Confused said
THIS IS AWFUL! My comments were not just moderated they were edited as well. I did not say Brownback for 2008, I mentioned another republican candidate… who, by the way, is the lead in the polls- unlike Brownback, who has 1% of the votes. I ALSO did not say: ARE SO RIGHTEOUS IN A WORLD FILLED WITH SIN AND DEBAUCHERY” I said “manage to breath.” This is just beyond weird.
Brother Yancy said
Dear Sister TDGC
What a wonderful idea! I will pray and study over this real hard and Mother and I will talk about virtually nothing else! Praise God for Senator Sam!
Mother sent in the statutory maxium of $2300 (Oh that Hateful Russel Feingold curtailing free speech!) to Senator Sam and advanced me on my inheritance to do the same. I am just sorry that $4,600 was all of Caesar’s we could render to Sam, but our heartfelt daily prayers and thoughts are with this godly man. (If it were not for those satanic communist contribution limits! I am sure a woman like yourself whom God has smiled on with properity must find this frustrating.)
Thanks again for providing this wonderful forum.
Triumpha! Abundant!
YIC
Brother Yancy
Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett said
Dear Brother Yancy,
Verily the Lord has chosen Sam Brownback as a means to see our great America into the next chapter of the Lord’s Book of Life. While wicked political practices limit our fiscal donations to the good Sam Brownback, they cannot limit our spiritual ones. That we can rest easy knowing. Please give sweet Mother my best regards.
YIC
WhoDat said
Lynelle,
Trust me I would never ‘pose naked’, that would be a sin and unkind to anyone with working eyes.
As for Ann Coulter, it does cause me considerable consternation that she seems to be dressed as if she is permanantly doing the morning after ‘walk of shame’, acutually that may explain why she IS dressed like that at 7am. If we could just cure her of her fashion issues, put her in a proper ladylike smock, and pin up that wretched tarty hair, she could pass as a respectable lady.
sp0iler said
Yancy,
There are ways around the campaign finance laws. You can donate to individuals up to a point, then you can donate to the state or national party, or Political Action Committees. I suggest moveon.org, rockthevote, or voteforchange.
La Mona said
Lol, then why do so many support me here at home? I’m sorry you can’t come up with a logical rebuttal (I’m still waiting for proof…….)
Brother McGregor said
I would like to post a blog suggestion to if i may
Bringing the Godless Scots back to God
Hear Hear Lynelle…You are smoting these Philistines hip and thigh
Brother McGregor said
By the Way…Did you happen to see the Coulter Show (happened to be on whilst I was working-I would not normally watch political s a t i r e and that Democrat woman saying she was baptised in Democracy (I should have noted her name)…She then amended it to being Baptised in Democracy and Catholicism.
I quickly snatched up the remote.
WhoDat said
Another ‘idea’ is to ask ‘How will you celebrate the first annual Sam Brownback day?’ other than praying, of course.
Maura Ghee said
I think La mona must account for 10,000 of the posts. yadda,yadda,yadda
HisWisdomReigns said
Have you all seen the good work Senator Brownback has been doing pointing out that the mormon is soft on the abortion issue? I mean does it make sense for Mit to say that although he now thinks that killing babies is wrong, he once thought that it was fine and dandy?
Ann Coulter is an okay choice for VP. Yes, she dresses like a hooker and that might tempt President Brownback. I especially worry about this in context of his flirtation with Catholicism. You know how sensual those people are. It is little wonder to me that the priests do what they do with little boys, given all the kneeling they do in church. Heavens, the Catholics will probably be all in here complaining now. But could it be any worse than having all those filthy scots crawling all over the blog?
If Coulter is unavailable or too slutty, can I suggest that President Brownback do whatever is possible to retain Vice President Cheney? He has done such a good job so far and I really think he deserves the chance to see the mission through.
La Mona said
Haha Maura, that was cute. (You’re a prime example of why people come to this site….)
Psycheout said
There’s always room for one more! Every day is Sam Brownback day.
MikeM said
This is such an excellent idea that I will also proclaim Sam’s word (which is, by extension, the word of God) throughout my office.
I really think we have to consider Pat Robertson as Sam’s running mate. It’s just so logical. The Holy Spirit told me that all Pat’s life has led to this moment.
Or God could have meant Pat Buchanan. I’m not sure. There was static on the line. It was kind of a rambling conversation, and I wasn’t really expecting Him to contact me. My notes may not be that reliable.
WhoDat said
Dearest His Wisdom,
Personally I feel that while he is an affable fellow Dick Cheney is FAR too liberal, he has a gay daughter and he has not publically rebuked, or disowned her. Yet.
I was thinking that Tom Delay is free these days as is that poor falsely accused Mark Foley, and lets not rule out Pat Robertson.
WhoDat said
MikeM,
I am certain that it was not Pat Buchanans name you heard, he is so LIEberal that if he had his way this country would be teeming with illegal, gay people, fornicating in public, and shouting filthy words to each other in spanish, whilst burning flags.
God Bless.
Brother McGregor said
Forgive me Brothers and Sisters but Cheney seems to be a snake in the grass. His lesbian daughter not withstanding, his eyes never seem to focus straightly on anyone.
Otherwise, he would absolutely be a choice for me. He is already so powerful behind beloved President G W Bush
WhoDat said
Dear Brother McG,
I hate to disagree with you, but I have always thought Cheney has very honest, kind eyes, such a warm, inviting smile, and generally a very comforting personality. He is just a big old teddy bear of a fella, like a kind grandfatherly type.
Glory.
MikeM said
Brownback-Robertson. What a great day for the United States that would be.
Yes, Sam Brownback is certainly God’s tool on earth.
Confused said
Mike,
He certainly is a tool.
Adam Nelson said
I’M BACK!
WhoDat said
Dear Adam,
It is so nice to see you back, your frequent returns and constant pestering of people here is a clearly a cry for attention and proof that deep down you want to be saved, and that you want us to help you. That is so comforting.
Bless you.
Adam Nelson said
WhoDat apparently is a psychologist now. Well, you’re right! (sob)
Sorry it took so long for me to be back. I’m in the process of moving and I need to sign up for internet again. Plus the HSF fell off my motherboard and trashed my sound card
I’ve noticed you guys have tried to copyright the English alphabet now. So what does that mean? You own the rights to every letter in the alphabet? I would love to see a lawsuit spring up with you guys over this hilarity!
Also, how did atheists “take” the letter A? It was used as a label by you guys on this website. I don’t think any group of political or philosophical beliefs can own a letter.
HisWisdomReigns said
MikeM,
Is it possible that the Good Lord was talking about Pat Tillman? I think the VP slot would be a fitting tribute to his sacrifice to the country.
I’m not a big fan of Mr. Robertson. My mother had colon cancer and i sent a letter into 700 Club and Pat mentioned her in his prayers, but she still died. I am a little bit skeptical that the Lord heals all the people that Pat claims He does. I know, I know, the Lord calls who He wants to call, but I still think that Pat failed me there.
I, too, share an aversion to Cheney’s continued love of his daughter. There’s loving the sinner, but it can be taken too far, in my opinion.
I know this idea is a bit far out there, but what about President Bush as a possible VP? It would be a bold choice, but having two good Christian men in the WH is better than one.
AutoFire said
So you think Cheney should hate his own daughter? How…un-Christian of you. Then again, I’m used to seeing un-Christian comments coming from people like you, TDGC, Lynelle, WhoDat, etc.
WhoDat said
Oh heavens no! We would never want him to ‘hate’ his own child, like he does all other gays, we just think he should rebuke and disown her.
Brother McGregor said
autofire…
Christian Statements are exactly what Pastor Tobin, Whodat and Mrs Gaines Crockett utter here. The problem with you cherry pickers…looking for the one parable or verse in the Scriptures to support your point of view, is that you do not comprehend that we take the whole Book to heart…not snippets of it…bits and pieces.
YIC
Brother McGregor said
No one said he should hate his daughter, he has been severely slow though to rebuke her of her lascivious ways. Please do not read into what we are posting and add your own comments and then attribute them to us.
Appreciate it
Brother McGregor said
exactly Brother Whodat….
YIC
WhoDat said
His Wisdom,
While I know most americans would love for the Bush regime to reign forever, as he has done such a bang up job thus far, I don’t think the world could take 8 more years of him as Brownbacks VP, you know that whole ‘too much of a good thing’ and all.
But that makes me wonder, do you think we could convince that Rove fella to toss his hat in the ring for VP? He seems like a very stand up, trustworthy fellow, and terribly handsome to boot.
sp0iler said
Hil/ Obama 2008
Save the world from the crazies!
HisWisdomReigns said
Thanks for the defense all. I didn’t remember writing the word ‘hate’ (as a Christian it is a word I try to avoid using, except to describe liberals’ attitudes toward our president and Lord).
Rove is an interesting idea, but did you see him doing that dancing and ‘rapping’? It certainly didn’t seem presidential. Not like Cheney, if you hear about him, he’s hunting or plotting or going on Rush, all of which are very presidential.
Brother WhoDat, you have a good point on my Bush-as-VP idea. I guess this is what happens when I throw an idea out there without out praying on it for a couple of hours first.
spOiler, did you think that posting some picture of a cartoon woman would make us think that you are female? Satan will come as a peacemaker, do you think we’ll fall for that, too?
interpreted said
autofire…
Christian Statements are exactly what Pastor Tobin, Whodat and Mrs Gaines Crockett utter here. The problem with you cherry pickers…looking for the one parable or verse in the Scriptures to support your point of view, is that you do not comprehend that we take the whole Book to heart…not snippets of it…bits and pieces.
If Jesus said a teaching, how can it be wrong?
Satan will come as a peacemaker, do you think we’ll fall for that, too?
Matthew 5:9 – ‘Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.’
Pwnd, noob.
sp0iler said
Most people here have, by now, accepted that I am female. The cartoon is what I would look like, if I were a Simpsons character.
I’m not even going to try to add common sense to this discussion of who should join the Brownback 08 ticket – he’s not going to get the nomination, folks! You’re backing a brain-dead horse!
HisWisdomReigns said
Sure, the true peacemakers, not Satan posing as a peacemaker. Those that walk the righteous path will know the difference.
interpreted said
One would have thought that ‘making peace’ is a pretty sure sign of being a ‘peacemaker’.
HisWisdomReigns said
Listen, I can’t explain the mysteries of Revelation to you. I don’t have the time. Can I recommend the Jack van Impe ministry?
WhoDat said
Spoiler,
You think you look like that cartoon? If that is true, please heed my advice and get thee to a doctor right away, you seem to have terrible jaundice.
I will pray for you, and your liver.
sp0iler said
you’re hilarious. Simpsons characters are all a shade of yellow or brown. And since the I’m about as caucasian as they come, I figured I would make my skin character the same color as the majority of Springfield residents.
Thanks for your concern, though.
Brother McGregor said
interpreted how do you feel I am owned?
I said that Christians take from the whole Bible…just like Tobin, Mrs Gaines Crockett etc do.
We do not just snatch any verse and try to use it to excuse sin like you do.
Is that clearer for you?
Brother McGregor said
Who said anything about Jesus being wrong?
Look if you are going to argue in here then argue what has been said, NOT what you think has been said or I will just begin to ignore you.
Which would be a shame because out of the few that argue in here, you often make some sense.
sp0iler said
Clearly, though, you’re not taking from the whole Bible. Didn’t Jesus wash the feet of the disciples, and forgive the adulterous woman from stoning? You seem to focus mostly on the “fire and brimstone” elements that allow you to “smite” those who don’t believe the same things as they do. Jesus preached to Jews, Gentiles, and Romans but you seem to think that anyone whose ideas are even slightly divergent from this group’s is evil, satanic, or “lieberal.”
I’m proud to be “liberal” if it means that my mind is open to other people’s ideas. Who are you to say that your strict interpretation of the Bible is correct. It was written by man, not God, last time I checked. And those men were fallible.
Nate said
My doctor insists than once a year I do a self examination for cancer. Truly Brownback day will be that day! Amen.
Brother McGregor said
The Anti Christ will come as a popular person, a peacemaker, he will apparently come from royalty and has probably already been born.
Christ says blessed are the peacemakers…He is referring to people who are clearly trying to make peace.
Not a demon using his skills to fool all and enslave. Remember Satan is the king of Lies and deceit…any promises of peace from his foul mouth would be a lie
We have a saying in Britain Interpreted
“Give your brain half a chance”
interpreted said
“Give your brain half a chance”
Odd, I’ve lived in Britain all my life and never heard it.
Who said anything about Jesus being wrong?
I quote a bit of Bible – you say ‘you’ve got to take the whole thing into account’. Clearly, you were claiming that that bit was wrong.
sp0iler said
Well, George W.
** has multiple presidents of the US in his family tree,
** has family wealth coming down to him from both sides of his lineage
** thinks he’s a peacemaker, although he has done more to harm America’s image overseas than anyone in history
** is popular among the people who agree with what this website is spouting
There’s a possibility, then, based on these limited criteria, that he is, in fact, the anti-Christ.
Brother McGregor said
interpreted if you indeed lived in Britain you would have heard the saying “Jamie give yer brain half a chance”
Brother McGregor said
Spoiler my money would be on Prince William…or was when I was an avid conspiracy nut.
Bush is also related to the Royal Family in Great Britain.
interpreted said
I do live in Britain, but I haven’t heard the saying. Check my IP. Google seemingly hasn’t heard of it either.
Helen Bock said
Spoiler,
I believe you may be a Simpsons character given all the un-Christian venom you spew and your two dimensional view of yhe world.
sp0iler said
Why would William be the anti-christ? i don’t understand…
seriously
interpreted said
Also, has anyone seen the thing that GC’s got after her name? ‘Biblical Authoritarian’? My lampoonometer went up a couple of notches!
sp0iler said
Helen, dear, I’m not un-Christian. I believe in Christ’s true message, which was love. I believe that makes me the purest kind of Christian. I’m simply not a waaaaaaay right-wing southern Baptist who believes that anyone outside of my church is hell-bound.
As I’ve said before,
God is Love.
sp0iler said
interpreted,
I’ve been wondering why that suddenly appeared.
You know how the media used to refer to Michael Jackson as the “self proclaimed King of Pop?” I think it’s like that…
Of course, now he’s “alleged child molester” or “former child star…”
how the mighty have fallen. Take note, Crockett!
Maura Ghee said
La mona is at 10,001 and counting.
sp0iler said
I haven’t seen a post from LaMona in awhile, Maura. I think you’re seeing things, hun.
June Gordon said
I am only going to say two prayers tonight:
1. That Sam Brownback stop being a damned Mary Worshiper sos that I might vote for the man.
AND
2. That the Lord Jesus grab “La Mona” by the scruff of her filthy neck while she is driving her old beat up car to the liquor store tonight and fling her out the window into oncoming traffic. I have about all I can take of her nasty, unChristian backtalk.
IN HIS NAME I SO PRAY,
June
sp0iler said
Good afternoon June,
It’s 5pm on the East Coast. I believe that means you don’t have to hide your booze in a coffee mug anymore.
Get sloshed in the open – it’s more honest.
intepreted said
That the Lord Jesus grab “La Mona” by the scruff of her filthy neck while she is driving her old beat up car to the liquor store tonight and fling her out the window into oncoming traffic. I have about all I can take of her nasty, unChristian backtalk.
That’s not very expressive of αγάπη.
Also, what about t3h Lord’s Prayer? Matthew 6:5-8 (or thereabouts) says that should be your prayer.
Brother McGregor said
Royalty, fair of face, one or both parents deceased, into peaceful works,
Just a hunch I had at the time. He is the only male presently in the right set of circumstance. Also (this is not Baptist belief so I am in lapse) his grandfather Philip (Prince Philip) once said he wished in reincarnation so he could come back as a virus and wipe out 85% of the world’s population.
Given my thinking at the time I was sure it was Prince William
sp0iler said
It’s a thought.
Isn’t one of the Bush twins blond? I know her parents are still alive, but otherwise, it seems to fit the mold as well…
Brother McGregor said
I’m fairly sure the Antichrist is male. The sins of lasciviousness, greed lust immorality referred to as the “whore of Babylon”-which is more of a symbolic representation rather than a physical form. The mark of the beast might be this damn blamed microchip. Maybe the Antichrist is the embodiment of banks and high finance…but if it is indeed a “person” then I am sure it is male.
Revelations is a series of chapters that do confound me.
Newlylost said
Not to interrupt, but I’d like to take a moment to return to the original post. As one of the 100,000 new readers, I think I should publicly explain my presence.
The ever-amusing PZ placed a link to this site on his blog some days ago in response to the “scarlet A” debacle. Until that day, I was a struggling Christian, reading the Bible and praying in an effort to meet the continual test of faith that is higher education. Thanks in great part to this site, I have given up on what I’ve always known in my heart to be a losing battle.
The delusion that permits the authors of this blog to speak so hatefully and ignorantly is no longer a delusion I can allow myself to be associated with; stamp an “A” on my forehead and hand me a kilt.
Tobin, you lie with the ease of the Devil you revile, but with none of the skill he supposedly employs. Ms. Gaines-Crockett, you are small and ugly in spirit and soul, condemning not those who should be condemned but instead those who are merely different. Mrs. Bryant, I’m not entirely sure what a woman with neither patience, humility, or eloquence is doing in the ministry at all. The three of you together are more compelling an argument against Christianity (especially Republican Baptist) that the Devil might as well just take a vacation.
In other news, finally giving up on trying to shoehorn natural selection into God’s revealed Word is going to make biology lectures (and PZ’s blog) much less stressful.
I’d pray for the three of you, but the best I can do now is hope that you go out of business. All the best;
Newlylost
HisWisdomReigns said
spOiler,
Are you suggesting one of the Bush daughters for the position of VP? An intriguing proposal.
intepreted said
Newlylost, I’m sorry to hear that – don’t let Tobin & co. win! Instead, think of people like Mandela, Tutu, and MLK – better by a long way.
HisWisdomReigns said
Ah, a communist, a sodomite, and a serial adulterer, much better Christians than you will find on this website indeed.
sp0iler said
I’m pretty sure that the requirements for the presidency also extend to the vice-president. ie, over 35, resident for more than 7 years, natural born citizen, etc, etc, etc
Ok, that’s it for me today.
Try not to damn each other to hell while I’m gone!
SPOILER said
Then again, seeing as how Tricky Dick has managed to convince himself that he’s a member of the legislature, I’m sure some strings could be pulled.
Either way, a Bush twin as VP would make for some hilarious Daily Show/Colbert Report, I’m sure.
intepreted said
Mandela – instrumental in bringing down apartheid.
Tutu – see above. Also, Truth and Reconciliation Commission. And what’s that about a sodomite? His wife and four children would suggest otherwise.
MLK – yes, he did do marital infidelity, but that pales compared to all of the good that he did.
Newlylost said
Religion comes down to hate. To send someone to hell, you must hate them… eternal torment of the soul isn’t something you hand out for jaywalking. Hate… that’s why HisWisdomReigns disparages the three examples you present, interpreted. That’s also why their bravery was required in the first place.
Religion comes down to hate. Athiests don’t go on Crusades or jihads… they content themselves with scientific study and philosophical treatises.
Sister Anita Biday said
I am amazed at the sheer number of lie-beral trolls visiting this site. They are mockers and scoffers, as the Lord Jesus warned us about. Well, they won’t be laughing when our ever-Merciful Lord comes back with His flaming chariots and squadron of angels and smacks their heads clean off their shoulders!
In any rate, we know that the most unbelievable miracles can happen. The Bible tells us so! Snakes can speak, virgins can bear children, old men can wave their wands and make the seas part, so I have no doubt that the Lord can bring about a much easier miracle by making Sam Brownback the next President of our once Godly United States of America!
Praise!
intepreted said
Religion comes down to hate.
Not really. Human nature comes down to hate. All of the great thinkers of history – be they religious or athiest or deist or agnostic – have tried to find ways to reverse that – and that is our civlisation. ‘HisWisdomReigns’ hates not out of his religion, but out of the sad fact that people aren’t very nice.
Newlylost said
Wait a sec… aren’t “ever-merciful” and “squadrons of death-dealing angels” kind of mutually exclusive?
Sister Biday, with all due respect, it’s hard not to mock the godly when they launch a crusade against kilts. Jesus wears a dress in every depiction of Him I’ve ever seen. The Scots preserved both secular and religious knowledge through the Dark Ages, when crazy religious nutjobs last held sway over the Western World.
Don’t even get me started on the topic of rape as a Godly miracle. That wouldn’t be scoffing or mocking but the righteous anger of morals unfettered by delusional authority figures.
If we get Ron Paul as President, does that mean that God failed, or that he just decided Brownback isn’t worthy? If we get Obama, I suppose the pillars of salt are coming soon?
Grace to you, and peace… but I suggest yoga instead of church.
HisWisdomReigns said
Hmmm…for the second time today I am wondering exactly where I wrote the word ‘hate’ or condemned anyone to hell, a job for which only our Lord is qualified.
If I recall the sequence of events correctly, Newlylost wrote into to say s/he was recently questioning her/his faith and the writings of Pastor Tobin, Mrs. Gaines-Crockett, et al –although I have to note that I didn’t get a mention
— turned her/him/it away from the Lord because they represent a style of belief that he/she wasn’t cool with.
interpreted wrote in with the names of three people that he/she thought would reconvert you and disparaged “et al” in the process.
I pointed out that the three “Christians” that interpreted cited all had moral failings of their own.
Now Newlylost has accused me of hate and damning people to hell.
If both of you want to see Mandela, Tutu, and King as more Godly than the people who post on this cite, that is fine, but I would assert that whatever moral failings that we all have (maybe too quick to judge?) our goal of electing President Brownback more than makes up for them. We seek to put America back on the righteous path.
Newlylost said
Interpreted: How do we know? Human nature has always been tainted by religion.
Maybe if we could somehow stop indoctrinating the children of this world with divisive mythologies, we’d get a chance to see how human nature actually works.
Sorry, but sooner or later it comes down to the fact that everyone that doesn’t agree with you gets tortured forever. We may not be born saints, but surely that kind of rhetoric isn’t imprinted on our souls.
On the other hand, my fight today is not with the reasonable Christians… it’s with the fundamentalist loonies that run this page.
intepreted said
Wait a sec… aren’t “ever-merciful” and “squadrons of death-dealing angels” kind of mutually exclusive?
Pretty much, yeah.
Don’t even get me started on the topic of rape as a Godly miracle. That wouldn’t be scoffing or mocking but the righteous anger of morals unfettered by delusional authority figures.
It’s that which made me start my crusade of … er, posting annoying comments on this site.
If we get Ron Paul as President, does that mean that God failed, or that he just decided Brownback isn’t worthy? If we get Obama, I suppose the pillars of salt are coming soon?
They’ve covered this before, together with a picture of Obama with fairly crudely shopped red eyes and a ‘666′ on his forehead.
Sister Anita Biday said
Newlylost, God cannot fail, and His will is always done even if we cannot determine what that is or even if it seems wildly misanthropic to our feeble human minds. Whether it’s drowning 100,000 Thailandese in a giant wave or moving Sam Brownback to the White House, He is glorious and sovereign. May His name be praised!
You don’t see things with the eyes of faith but rather with the myopic vision of a typical worldly lost soul. Thus, you can’t discern the things of God and how He moves in everything. “Not even a sparrow falls to the ground without His notice” (Ezekiel 23:20)
Brother Yancy said
Dear Sister Biday
As I have not seen you here before welcome in Jesus’ name to this Godly site. As you can see we battle hammer and tong with the heathen here daily, yea, hourly. We have the usual mix of communists, atheists, whoremongers, slatterns, drunkards, liberals, democratz, feminists and many afflicted with the curse of malignant narcissism.
Tread bravely, Sister with you Christian faith and the word of God in your hand. You are side-by-side with Christians filled with the love of Jesus, including, but not limited to, our firebrand Brother McGregor, our philosopher Brother WhoDat, who will again chastise me for my verbosity, Sister Mabel, a kind soul, and a host of others who hourly battle Satan in the name of Senator Brownback and under the guidance of Rev. Tobin, an exemplary Baptist pastor, Lynelle, a true trailblazer in the field of prison ministry and of course the sainted Sister TDGC who is a constant inspiration to us all,
I myself am a semi-retired career Navy Man with 26 years service honorably discharged and I live with my 80 year old mother who is a sweet and charitable Baptist lady. In the Navy I worked mostly as a pharmacists mate, having trained as such and also took on special assignments in the area of hygenic education, principally on board the U.S.S LaSalle. I was also proud to be of special help to the Naval Investigative Services over the years, but that exact nature of that work I am not at liberty to discuss.
Principal Servants of Satan on here include:
Confused: Name says it all
La Moaner: To me she sounds like a drug addict
Spoiler – her husband washes the dishes in their house. Need I say more? It is easy to guess who wears the pants.
Welcome Sister! Triumphal! Abundant!
YIC
Brother Yancy
Newlylost said
HisWisdom: Just because you didn’t make the rules doesn’t excuse you from their outcome. It doesn’t matter whether it’s God or the Great Pumpkin that separates the wheat from the chaff, if you buy into it you’re just as culpable. Either you believe that atheists go to hell, or you aren’t Christian… that was pounded into my head by my Christian (Republican Baptist) parents.
The righteous path displayed by this website – no gays, no scots, blessed rapes and bad typing skills – sounds like a comedy sketch that someone started taking seriously. If Brownback actually agreed with this drivel, he’d have less of the popular vote than he currently carries.
Newlylost said
Wait a sec. Washing the dishes makes you a namby-pamby and a lieberal to boot? Good Lord, what must they think of me; I cook _and_ clean. That’s right, ladies and gentlemen, a retired Navy man from the Special Forces of Hygenic Education thinks I’m a servant of Satan because I can keep my kitchen clean without my wife having to step in.
Oh yeah, my wife wears pants… and she looks damn good in them. She had to stop wearing skirts because they led to undue fornication.
intepreted said
The righteous path displayed by this website – no gays, no scots, blessed rapes and bad typing skills – sounds like a comedy sketch that someone started taking seriously. If Brownback actually agreed with this drivel, he’d have less of the popular vote than he currently carries.\
You are onto something there. Try typing in a word that is a syonym of *profanity deleted*, *profanity deleted*, and *profanity deleted*, and see what the *profanity deleted* does.
I suspect (how far I am from day to day varies) that some people here, inc. Pastor Maker, are *profanity deleted*.
WhoDat said
Washing the dishes and cooking certainly does not make you a namby pamby LIEberal, unless of course you are male.
intepreted said
OK, my comment’s awaiting moderation, but this won’t -
The righteous path displayed by this website – no gays, no scots, blessed rapes and bad typing skills – sounds like a comedy sketch that someone started taking seriously. If Brownback actually agreed with this drivel, he’d have less of the popular vote than he currently carries.
I have my suspicions.
HisWisdomReigns said
Newlylost,
So, if God, for whatever reason He should happen to choose, casts someone into the fires of Hell, I am responsible for that person being Hell because I believe in God? So all Christians are culpable? Did I follow you correctly? ‘Cause, to me, it sounds like the ‘high’er education is working just fine for you.
And for the last time, Scots, while filthy, are fine. Kilt-wearing Scots are another matter.
La Mona said
Maura, why don’t you respond with something that holds some water. It’d be so much more impressive.
June: I’ve never touched alcohol. Your blind irrational assumptions never cease to amuse me as you only prove yourself a fool.
And yea, it has been a bit hasn’t it…..Band practice took over.
Newlylost said
Oops… forgot that part. I am, in fact, a man. My wife is a woman… and she wears sexy pants.
intepreted said
Oops… forgot that part. I am, in fact, a man. My wife is a woman… and she wears sexy pants.
Doesn’t matter; on this site, regardless of other circumstances, you are a sockpuppet registered by La Mona.
Newlylost said
HisWisdom: The problem is that you’ve bought into it. If you stood up and said “Those Jews/Buddhists/atheists don’t deserve the fiery pit of God’s wrath,” I’d consider you a moral and upstanding man. But you confess a faith that wants to condemn me to everlasting torment… so yeah, you and your fellow Christians are culpable in perpetuating the hatred of the feared “not-us.”
Some more than others, of course… interpreted seems to be an okay sort.
La Mona said
Lol, Interpreted. I’m popular! Everyone wants to be me. Oh wait, THEY want everyone to be me. (Kinda twisted aren’t they?)
Lazarus said
interpreted you are right, anybody new to this blog that has an opposing opinion seems to become La Mona’s new personality. It is the only argument that they use and they can not come up with anything new.
Newlylost said
Y’know, when I was her age, I was a ballet dancer… and let me tell you – the girls certainly weren’t wearing pants.
La Mona; you might as well drink, as long as you do it responsibly. My early introduction to reasonable comsumption is directly responsible for a lack of DUI tickets as a youth.
intepreted said
The problem is that you’ve bought into it. If you stood up and said “Those Jews/Buddhists/atheists don’t deserve the fiery pit of God’s wrath,” I’d consider you a moral and upstanding man. But you confess a faith that wants to condemn me to everlasting torment… so yeah, you and your fellow Christians are culpable in perpetuating the hatred of the feared “not-us.”
I would advise you to look at the idea of Universal Salvation (although the name’s fairly self-explanatory). Even without that, don’t lump all us Christians with this lot.
Also – look what the spam filter did to my post! Have fun filling in the gaps, children!
Newlylost said
One assumes that Universal Salvation is the same idea as standing up and saying that good and moral people of any stripe are safe from the fiery pit. If so, then my statement stands; my fight will never be with it’s adherents. On the other hand, the theological basis of such a belief must be interesting to say the least.
Quibbles aside, I’m glad that religion is trying to advance past hatred… just wish it didn’t take so long.
La Mona said
Newlylost: No thanks. I don’t like the way it smells. I don’t like the effect it has on a person’s mind. And I don’t like the health effects either. I am perfectly satisfied with normal drinks. (they don’t dehydrate you either.) I don’t need a mind-altering substance to have a good time or to lift me off a depressing day or whatever. It’s just not for me.
Laz, and so they remain fools. One day perhaps they will learn the meaning of “debate” and the “jokers” here may give their real views. Of course, momentarily “jokers” is going to be moderated….Read it while you can!
BJ Tabor said
What do you think Sam will get of the vote in 2008? 75%? 80% Sam Brownback is the kind of man America can love and I am sure he will be one of the most popular presidents in modern American history.
Newlylost said
So, where’d the real crazies go? I was looking forward to the response of Tobin and GC to my original post.
Lazarus said
0% is my guess BJ.
La Mona said
BJ, logically speaking……1% at most.
WhoDat said
Yay! BJ, you make me so happy.
I am guessing at least 80%, but you know those horrid LIEberals with their Diebold machines will try and change the results. But the joke will be on them when Jesus flings them into hell, like a bunch of sinfilled rag dolls.
Praise!
Newlylost said
La Mona, as long as it’s your own reasoned opinion, kudos to you… me, I couldn’t imagine good food without good wine, but it’s personal preference.
Tabor; Sammy boy isn’t going to make it to the primaries.
BJ Tabor said
Nonsense, Jesus will personally see to Sam’s election to the Presidency like He did with GW Bush.
Sam is a great guy.
Lazarus said
Never said he was a bad guy. Just stating that he will not be the next president.
La Mona said
Yea, it’s my own opinion. I value my ability to think for myself. And this is my personal deal. Now, if someone is responsible, then whatever floats your boat.
And I’m going to love it when Brownback drops. I can imagine this site now…..
Sister Anita Biday said
Thank you, Brother Yancy for your kind words!
I had begun to fear that this blog had been entirely taken over by demons and sodomites.
When I go with my fellow Baptists into neighborhoods near my church to hand out Chick tracts and proclaim the Good News, I am often greeted with the same sort of malicious, vile claptrap as I receive here. I don’t understand why people are so hardened to hearing the truth of why they’re heading straight to Hell unless they repent and accept Jesus into their hearts like I did over fifteen years ago as a young girl! Yet, all I receive for my sincere efforts of trying to save their hellbound souls is mockery and scorn.
This is why we need men like Sam Brownback in office. He will ensure that our laws reflect God’s laws and restore goodness to this once great nation. I sometimes wish I had lived back in the days of the Puritans (after we had successfully shooed the godless Indians to a reasonable distance). Everyone then had memorized their Bibles and knew their place. I guess the Lord just wishes me to remain in this wicked age so that we can preach to people as Jonah did for the Ninevites.
Newlylost said
WhoDat, the conservatives are the ones with their hands in the Diebold cookie jar. If you Republicans had just left the democratic process alone, we’d be a more Christlike country by far.
Newlylost said
Well, as long as we define Christlike to be peaceful, friendly, and good stewards of both life and His gift of the world.
intepreted said
You hand out Chick tracts, Anita? Could you point me in the direction of a copy of ‘Wounded Children’ on the internet? (or, even better, upload it yourself!) Thanks in advance.
WhoDat said
How in heavens name would having the devilcrats in charge make this a more Christian (republican baptist) country? If those America hating heathens were in charge we wouldn’t be bringing the hammer of Christian democracy down on those savages in Iraq, which they are so grateful for. Gays would be marrying, which would instantly destroy all Christian marriages. Women folk could actually have a legal gripe when they are paid less than men for the same job. And we would all be speaking mexican.
Sister Anita Biday said
Interpreted, I couldn’t find the tract on chick.com, but they have a delightful short-film version of it on YouTube:
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfbTHIu0LbM
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUuC9Z-t6xg&mode=related&search=
Whatever you do, ignore the ungodly comments by some of the viewers.
Newlylost said
…I am humbled by your abilities and the amount of time you have on your hands… having done the research, I am forced to conclude that this is a *** inappropriate material removed****.
…so much for my higher education, indeed.
WhoDat said
Oh Sister Anita Biday what a wonderful YouTube testimony to the evils of homosexuality, every child should watch that daily, especially the end when redemption is found and those three men develop a heavenly friendship.
Glory!
Brother Yancy said
Dear Sister Biday
Praise God for your witnessing and testimony! Triumphal!
Oh, I forgot a few things about the agents of Satan here:
Spoiled also uses her employers computers for personal business and to harass Sen. Sam’s followers here. There is a dirty atheist young man here named Adam who claims to take showers but apparently does not becasue he does not cleanse himself property. How ironic he is named for the first sinful man who was led astray by the woman. I wish I could show him a proper spiritual cleasning as I did for the young sailors in Hygenic Education. Methaphorically speaking, of course. Newly Lost appears to be the product of some secular university or else has fallen under the hypnotism of the JCM (Jewish Controlled Media).
YIC
Brother Yancy
we need a mod in here said
lol HisWisdom
You too eh? I am also surprised by the number of things I have apparently said as well. I haven’t told anyone to kill anyone and certainly I do not believe in forced sexual congress (rape).
I try to answer as I understand the Scriptures with all my personal biases as much in check as I can and still…
I was even accused of writing all the original blogs.
YIC
Maura Ghee said
If we include her other personae; Ninja, newlylost, Miss007, etc. La Mona is up around 15,000 posts.
And it will stop at about 15,010. For good.
Helen Bock said
newlylost,
If you wear the kilt and your wife wears the pants you’re not newlylost, you’re long since damned.
Tom Turgid said
Newlylost,
What type of pants does your wife wear , blue jeans, sheer thongs, or those tight legged gaucho pants?
La Mona said
Maura, what you state is baseless. I in no way have more than just myself here. …care to prove any of your false assertions here? Oh, yea, “false” good luck with that. I’ll be waiting….a really long time.
Lazarus said
La Mona how was school today? Get any of your books. Meet any of your teachers yet?
La Mona said
It was fine. I’m able to get on this site at school…so I sat here since none of my classes are starting until like the 20th. Ummm, the new PreCal teacher is hilarious though. We’re taking the worthless counselor’s password/registration info so that we can register tomorrow for all our online business. Then I’ll get to meet my new teachers. Though Friday I’m going to the beach to see my English teacher. I need to call her…..hmmm.
Though, I shall let ya know when all that is settled. How about you?
Lazarus said
Good car is fixed, and I went to work. And now I sit here and reading. Also having a good laugh while I am at it. Seems Maura is a bit loopy; seeing double, triple, quadruple when there is still only one.
La Mona said
That’s good. Whatcha reading? And yea, they are for a good laugh. The people at school thought so today as well.
Lazarus said
This mainly might check out this MIT website too.
La Mona said
Fun. Well, I think I’m about done for the night. I’ll see ya tomorrow evening.
ttfn.
Lazarus said
TTFN. Yep will see you tomorrow. I just hope the band does alright considering we didn’t get to practice tonight.
GodsGirl4Ever said
Lamona – At first I thought you were just being picked on but now it seems like you really aren’t who you say you are. I’ve read through a bunch of your posts and it does look like you’re a poser and not very christian like at all in spirit. Sorry if I hurt your feelings but I think you are troubled. So please don’t tell me I am making baseless accusations because the facts are pretty clear. You need a lot of prayers.
Brother McGregor said
Hello GodsGirl
nice to see a new face around these parts
Welcome to our little group online
YIC
Confused said
GodsGirl, Lay off LaMona. She’s a nice girl.
BJ Tabor said
What do you Brownbackers out there think Sam’s first hundred days domestic program will be? I’m betting it’s banning gays from the military, pornography on the internet, outlawing abortion and mandatory abstinence training for all school children. That would a great three months for Democracy!
WhoDat said
So I happened to turn on the wretched TeeVee tonight and caught some bits of the ‘faux (other than Sam of course) Republican’ debate/discussion, and was so crushed to see that it was held on Sunday, the lords day, so clearly these fellas were skipping church. Bunch of filthy Sinners! They must have had to drag poor, devout Sam there by his toenails, kicking and screaming. Honestly, what is this world coming to?
WhoDat said
BJ, you are truely soothing to the deepest parts of me, and to all men, all over the world. You deserve a pat, several swift ones over and over, on the top of your head, in thanks and anticipation for what joys you have and will bring to us all. God Bless BJ!!
Brother Yancy said
Bro. WhoDat
I did not watch their so-called debate as Mother and I have made up our minds and put our money where our mouths are — up to the statutory limit. (God, please smite hateful Russel Feingold, faux-Jew and disciple of the Deveiver, Chief detractor of free speech.) Their flauting of God’s law if sickening – to debate on a Sunday. I applaud your vigilance, however, and your constantly curious mind. Bless you, sir!
The Former Mayor of New York – Liar, serial adulterer, draft dodger, abortionist
The Senator from Arizona – Not the Man his father (whom I served under in ‘71-’72) was.
The Mormon – What can be said after THAT?
The Former Governor of Arkansas – the last time we elected a “Man from HOPE, AK” what happend?
Senator Sam Brownback – the man to bring America back to GOD!
YIC
Brother Yancy
PS – As always we pray for the True Jews! Glory!
WhoDat said
I see we are only ‘652 souls saved’ away from the 100,000 mark, at which point we celebrate blessed Sam Brownback and only Sam for an entire day. While we celebrate his goodness every day, I can hardly wait still.
So, let us all contact a sinner (lord knows they are not hard to locate), with a godly chain letter, and inform them if they don’t visit this site and send it to ten friends they will burn, screaming in agony, for eternity in the fiery pits of hell.
God bless. If you really want to light a fire under their rumps, tell them they have 7 days after reading the e-mail until they die horribly, unless they follow the instructions, seems to usually work with the eternally damned, they always hedge their bets at the eleventh hour.
Brother McGregor said
well one wonders, somewhat despondently, how many might be mona
However…It’s still a smashing idea and I think we should immediately draft one up.
Is there anyone we shouldn’t be inviting?
(As not to step on toes)
interpreted said
Newly Lost appears to be the product of some secular university or else has fallen under the hypnotism of the JCM (Jewish Controlled Media).
Well well, you’ve finished with your front of everything else, and have reached the ‘it’s a Jewish conspiracy, I tell you!’ level. Hardly surprising.
well one wonders, somewhat despondently, how many might be mona
I have conclusive evidence that Pastor Tobin Maker is a sockpuppet of La Mona; one of my sources tells me that Sam Brownback is, as well. In fact, you know those 6 billion other people in the world? Forget’em. They are all us three too – myself, La Mona, and Adam Nelson (and I have my doubts about the last one).
democommie said
My Dearest Daffy:
You cannot know the hell I’ve been through in these last few days. I returned–against my better judgment–to the heathen northeast, Massachusetts, specifically, to visit some friends and try to convince them of the error of their ways. They have a BLACK Governor, Deval Patrick (what sort of vood name is that?, sounds a lot like. “Duvalier” to me!). They’re so far left that their cars don’t have right turn signals!! LOL!!!!!!! I mean it , really, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But, that’s not the worst of it. They have strip joints and “Adult” bookstores out the wazoo. I spent the better part of two days going undercover into various dens of iniquity (I think I was recognized in a few of them, though). It was at least as bad as I remember–I mean as bad as I’ve been told.
Well, dear heart, I am back!! Well and revitalized. My juices are flowing, so to speak. I would sure like to see you and a few of the ladies of B4Browneye down at my office, “FeelinGood Gents Club”! I think we could all get down on our knees (well, allay’all, anyway) and just do what comes naturally. BTW, could you bring a blank check for a donation?
sp0iler said
Apparently, I’m a “Principal Servant of Satan,” no matter how many times I tell you all that I’m a Christian. I just don’t subscribe to the same perverted version of God’s message as you.
Yancy, attacking my husband for washing the dishes is unlikely to get you anywhere. We are what’s called “normal,” meaning that we alternate who makes dinner and who washes up afterwards on a regular basis. We both work and it’s the only fair way to do it.
La Mona said
Lol, looks as if I’m still popular.
GodsGirl, show me this evidence. I promise to be nothing but myself as I have always been. Now, if you piece together this “evidence” then I will show you the fault in it. Good luck, as always I will be waiting for rational responses.
Hipple, Rev. Paul T. said
Sam Brownback is a false prophet. I will pray for his soul and the souls of the good believers under his demonic spell
BJ Tabor said
BJ, you are truely soothing to the deepest parts of me, and to all men, all over the world. You deserve a pat, several swift ones over and over, on the top of your head, in thanks and anticipation for what joys you have and will bring to us all. God Bless BJ!!
Thank you WhoDat,
All I seek is to spread His love to all men like The Lord wants.
I am put to mind this quote from Philemon 1:20 Yea, brother, let me have joy of thee in the Lord: refresh my bowels in the Lord.
PRAISE!
Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett said
Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ,
I do not know about all of you, but I am somewhat excited about receiving our 100,000 visitor. I just pray that it is someone of strong, moral fiber and not some skirt-wearing atheist. Even worse would it be if it were a Muslim. Please join me in prayer that it will be the right kind of person, the kind that represents our values.
In His Service.
Nate said
I just did a photographic measurement and truly Brownback’s Bible is bigger than Huckabee’s. This is a sign. Vote Brownback!
Hipple, Rev. Paul T. said
For the sake of His goodness, I pray it is not me
Brother McGregor said
Rev Paul I googled your name to see what congregation you ministered to and was unable to find it. Are you a good God fearing Baptist sir or one of the mongrel cults?
YIC
sp0iler said
You do all realize that the protestant church broke off from the Catholic church about 500 years ago? By my reasoning, this makes the Catholics the “original” Christians, and everyone else our bastard cousins?
Hipple, Rev. Paul T. said
Brother, McGregor
I am an instrument of God’s hand and don’t presume to understand His way. I just know it will be revealed to me on the day of judgment. But I Most certainly am neither a papist Nor am I a muslim if that is what you are getting at.
FYI, I sir/madam, am a non-denominational Dominionist whom He has called personally to support Tom Tancredo 110% through prayer, acts of generosity and blogging.
I pray that Jesus in the Christ will reveal to you through prayer and humility that Brownback is a false prophet and sinner who is not worthy of support by True Children of Christ Our Lord and the Savior of ALL christian Souls.
Helen Bock said
I suppose next spoiler will be telling us that the alleged ancestral monkeys were the first Christians.
Brother Yancy said
Dear Sister Bock
Spoiler is from Taxa-chusetts. That should explain a lot.
YIC
Brother Yancy
sp0iler said
Yancy,
Our taxes are no higher than most other states in the country. If you want to be anti-Mass, there are many other, more legitimate reasons to do so. For example, the “Big Dig” project wasting billions of dollars of federal tax money; our acceptance of gay marriage; being home to the Kennedy clan; inspiring so many bad accents in movies and on television.
The Taxachusetts label is left over from the 80s and early 90s. It’s 2007 – again, I would suggest you read a newspaper.
Helen,
I believe that human evolution happened millions (if not billions) of years before Christ was born. If you recall, Jesus instructed that Peter would be the leader of the church after he was gone. Peter is celebrated as the First Catholic Pope, meaning that the “original” church was Catholic. The reformation didn’t begin until 1517, some millennium and a half after Christ died. Are you telling me that there were no “Christians” until 1500 years after the crucifixion? Who fought in the Crusades? Who built the great Cathedrals and ancient churches in Europe?