The Scarlet Letter: A is for Atheist
Posted by Pastor Tobin Maker D.D on August 2, 2007
One of my favorite writers in the American language is Nathaniel Hawthorne, who came from a great family of Christians. Mr Hawthorne’s great-great-great- grandfather was an army man who fought peacenik Quakers and bloodthirsty indians, while his great-great grandfather was a judge who faced the horrors of those notorious witches of Salem.
Nathaniel Hawthorne’s most famous book is The Scarlet Letter, a frightening and righteous tale of a rare case of perversion in Massachusetts in the 17th century, when that state was not yet under liberal control (this was before the Kennedys arrived on our shores).
The villain of the story is Hester Prynne, who commits the sin of adultery. As a result she receives God’s fitting and inevitable punishment in the form of a baby, which she must bear, since the murder of womb-babies was illegal at the time. She is also punished by man, by way of a bright red letter “A”, which she is forced to wear on her dress so that everyone can know her for what she is.
I remember how the brilliant letter “A” idea was seared into my consciousness when I first read The Scarlet Letter in my college days. It led me to wonder why such a device is not used in today’s society. Would it not be a wonderful thing to be able to recognize sinners and unbelievers of every stripe by merely noting the colorful badges sewn onto their clothing?
Today, in an America filled with adulterers and baby-killers, an even worse sinner casts a shadow over them all—the atheist. Yet atheists are difficult to spot. They hide their sinister cult behind masks of smiles, science and soft, pleasant voices. Your next door neighbor might be an atheist. You just can’t tell.
Imagine if it was simple to identify atheists and their tainted works. Would it not be grand? Think how much easier it would be to protect your children’s eyes, ears and souls from atheists’ influences if their websites, books, movies and yes, even their very clothes, were clearly labeled with a bright scarlet “A”.
What do you think?
Yours in Christ,
Tobin Maker, Resident Pastor, Baptists for Brownback 2008
http://baptistsforbrown2008.wordpress.com/2007/08/20/a-white-feather-for-the-cowardly-british/
Warrior Jodie said
They oought to have it tattoeed on their HEADS so people can see they are going STRAIGHT TO HELL and avoid them. I think June Gordon should be tattoooed with a BIG A but not for athiest for A$$hole.
Geoff said
Atheists are worse than adulterers and baby killers? What kind of backward thinking is that? Just because some people don’t believe in your little Jesus fairy tale they’re evil and sinners? What’s so sinister about them? Exposing people to rational thought and a more realistic view of the universe sure might undermine the ridiculous notions of some supernatural being who controls the universe, but I’d hardly call it sinister. I thought you religious folks were supposed to love everyone. You’ve sure got a funny way of showing it.
Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett said
Jodie,
Shut up and sober up.
Pastor Maker,
That is a beautifully written piece, which I agree with completely. Not only should the atheists be marked, so should the Liberals with a huge L, which can stand for Loser or Liberal, the definition is the same.
Sanity said
Jeeshers, grow up.
Why don’t we put an I on your forehead for being an IDOIT and INTOLERANT and INSANITY that you seek to spread.
Last I checked, Jesus said to love your neighbor, and that means no matter what you judge them to be, and not try and push them out cause you have failed to convert them.
And shouldn’t you be talking to them, trying to preach to them instead of avoiding them?
What next, you want the star of david on all the Jews? Oh, you remember who did that, don’t you…Look who you are becoming and look who you are letting lead you there.
WhoDat said
Dear Pastor and gentle Mrs GC,
While I love the idea, I worry that with so many filthy, non-American speaking people crawling all over our great Christian (republican baptist) nation, shouldn’t we reconsider using letters (lord knows they can’t read) and go with symbols/pictures like on street signs to depict their sinful ways?
cbv said
Now let me think. What does that remind me of?
Oh, yes, right, Germany back in the early 1930s and 40s, when Jews were required to wear a David’s star.
YOU sir, Mr. Tobin Maker, are NOT a Christ.
You do not even begin to understand what it means to BE a Christ.
Connie Mack said
How about a big old S for Sinner? That would cover half the population and make it really easy to know who to keep our children away from.
Geoff said
Christian nation? Please refresh my memory, when did we get an official national religion?
Connie Mack said
“Geoff”, this country was established on Christian foundations. I suggest you look it up in the Constitution.
kaddis said
***UnChristian Word Removed***
***UnChristian Word Removed***
Don’t fall into their trap of ***UnChristian Word Removed*** . All these ***UnChristian Word Removed*** are just throwing rocks into hornets nests and stirring up trouble.
***UnChristian Word Removed*** me once….shame on you***UnChristian Word Removed*** me twice…..shame on me!!
This whole blog is a sick ***UnChristian Word Removed*** .
Geoff said
“Connie”, go read a book or two yourself because you’re wrong. If the founding fathers were so into being Christian then why is there a separation of church and state? There’s plenty of evidence that many of the founding fathers, while not atheists, were definitely NOT huge fans of Christianity.
Ryan said
Hello,
How about yellow stars for Jews? Have any of you people actually read any history.
It is exactly this type of needless insanity that drives any sensible individual towards atheism. Actually, wait a moment. Go on, whats your next big idea? be sure to tell as many people as you can.
Connie Mack said
Just stuff it, Geoff. You sing the same old poor-me song that every other liberal sings when they can’t come up with something original.
Cap'n 'brownbeard' interpreted said
I have to add my voice to others here – the last person to recommend ‘Pastor Maker’s Marvelous Idea©’ was the man who seems more and more to be the idol of the authors of this blog, Adolf Hitler (oh noes!!1! Godwin’s Law!!1!!11) – he was the one who ordered that the people that he designated as ‘evil’ or ‘immoral’ should be marked out with compulsory badges.
Also, by doing this, Mr Maker, wouldn’t you be forcing ’small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark’?
interpreted said
Wow, now kaddis was pwnd by the filtering.
Mr Jebus said
Yeh, thats just great. It’s people like you that are going to make freedom of speech a thing of the past. I’m sure Jesus ( real or not ) must be SO proud that you are attaching his name to such a bunch of belligerent, defiled bull-crap.
So in kind, I now form the Tobin Maker Society for the destruction of Jews, Muslims, Gays, Straights, Budists, Babiess, Puppies, Unholy Scotsmen and people who use Java. In your name lets us wipe this scum from the earth and push them into whatever hell they believe in. I only hope Jesus will let you join them there.
startlingmoniker said
This is such a ridiculous post, just completely absurd. My feeling is that people who believe in the Christian god in any real sense would have no time for this sort of nonsense– seriously, why wouldn’t you spend ALL DAY trying to get closer to the being you think has the ability to create universes? I know I would!
But when folks have the time to write stuff like this, it’s pretty clear they’re just using the whole “god thing” as a hiding place from which to fling their poo.
The trouble is that deep down, you really don’t believe. Unfortunately, you’ve made this a centerpiece of your life and part of your reputation, and you don’t have the strength to break with it. Most likely, you also lack the critical thinking skills necessary to have ever begun the process of questioning and thoughtful realization that would have brought you to the rather simple realization that god does not exist, and that religion is an antiquated form of government in direct conflict with democracy.
Still, I don’t expect you to change your mind about your “beliefs,” however unexamined they may be. I do ask, though, that you take a step back and examine your blog and your relationships with others as if you were an outside party. Do you see the conflict you are helping to create? Your blog is a framework for people to come together, but not in discussion or constructive works– only in negativity and ongoing, pointless shouting matches.
interpreted said
Startlingmonker, while your motives are excellent, they wlll get to the word ‘ridiculous’, and, to them, the rest of your words will merely turn into I AM A LIEBERAL MOONBAT SISSIE COMMIE PINKO ATHEIST PAGAN SINNER SODMOMITE, written over and over again. A* for trying, though.
McGregor said
(In)sanity….if the gracious and chaste and womanly Mrs Gaines Crockett were to be marked with an “I” by our most Gracious Lord…It would stand for “Inspired”.
She has a holy glowing “I” in the middle of her forehead…of this i am positive and only the believer and the person that cast off their sins and bathe and scrub in the blood of the Lamb can see it.
You sad minions of sodomite mirth that try to disrupt the Blessed words of Pastor Maker and The Inspired Mrs G-C should beg forgiveness…Plead for it.
The Lord sees you
Remember when you laugh and scorn with your pagan tittering voices of fairy men and questionable females…THE LORD SEES YOU
PRAISE
interpreted said
Aye, /b/rother McGregor. Only the true believer.
Pastor Tobin Maker D.D said
I cannot seem to post a simple thought here without persecution raining down upon me. Why is it that atheists are so full of hate? Just what is so wrong with my suggestion for an atheist “A”? Is the color scarlet the problem? Or the font? They can be changed. I’m not inflexible.
InChristian love
McGregor said
Remember Pastor….this might be your own Blessed Calvary….Take comfort in this
Lazarus said
This goes to show how much of the New Testament Tobin has read. Which is obviously none. Considering most of it was written about forgiveness and change. Connie Mack you my dear need to learn that it would be the whole population of the world with the big letter S, you included. The premise of asking Jesus into your life, is to recognise you are a sinner and that you are for forgiveness and for Him to change you.
McGregor Mrs. G is nowhere near inspired in the way you are suggesting.
McGregor said
cbv letters should stand for ***UNChristian Word Removed*** (I apologise profoundly for the *UnChristian word* but surely it is written that from time to time we can call certain “people” ***UNChristian Word Removed*** ?)
Pastor Maker is not Christ…He wouldn’t even try to be Christ.
Pastor Maker’s sole (SOUL) purpose here is to bring even a ***UNChristian Word Removed*** like you to the BLESSED FEET of the Savior…
McGregor said
Lazarus….Go back to being Dead…Verily you are DEAD already if you do not hear that tiny voice.
Glory
Geoff said
Way to make stuff up Connie! Where’s this “poor me” song that I’m singing? Just like you religious nuts to rely on fiction to participate in a discussion.
HisWisdomReigns said
Startlingmoniker,
You rightfully point out that sometimes these discussions descend to name-calling and this blog becomes hate-filled. Here’s an easy solution. Take your sorry ass elsewhere. We are trying to have a grown up conversation about the threat that atheists pose to this great nation. Pastor Tobin did not advocate killing anyone. Pastor Tobin did not advocate forced conversions. Instead he merely suggested that those that are in league with Satan be identified as such.
I wear a cross on my necklace, one on my bracelet, a WWJD rubber bracelet-thing, and a ring that contains a sliver of the true cross. I make my allegiance clear. I walk the Righteous path. You know your children are safe with me. Now, what of the atheist? We can’t know can we? All we want to know is that is we let our children talk to the man with the ‘A’ on his shirt, that he’s likely to offer them meth or try to sodomize them. Is it so wrong for a parent to want to know this.
All the haters on this site need to realize that is you want to participate in grown up discussions, you need to stop comparing everyone to Nazis and stop the name calling.
Lazarus said
Go read alittle bit McGregor you might actually learn something. My first suggested reading material will be the Bible. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John to start with.
Peace v(^_^)
Enola Tibbets said
Those atheists are too deceitful to wear an A on their garments – I think it would have to be tattooed on their foreheads.
Lazarus said
Most of you Southern Bapist(psuedo-Christians) are more in league with Satan than most atheists. With all the things Tobin, Mrs. Crockett, HisWisdom, and anyone else who agrees with them are making his job alot easier. All Satan is doing is sitting back and laughing as you guys, who proclaim to be on Jesus’ side, lead people into his arms.
Just wish you guys wake up and realise you are not helping me or any other Christian when you post stuff like this.
Confused said
Heck, I’ll wear one with pride! I don’t try to hide the fact that I’m an atheist. I’m proud of it. Can we just not make it a scarlet A? Because most people associate that with adultery, which I’ve never involved myself in. I’ll wear a t-shirt that says “atheist” if you send it to me, though.
interpreted said
Psst, Lazarus – McGregor is just having a laugh, as far as I can tell. Unless, that is, he actually just had a Southern Baptist conversion. :shocked:
You rightfully point out that sometimes these discussions descend to name-calling and this blog becomes hate-filled. Here’s an easy solution. Take your sorry ass elsewhere.
Way to go on the consistency there, WhoDat.
We are trying to have a grown up conversation about the threat that atheists pose to this great nation. Pastor Tobin did not advocate killing anyone. Pastor Tobin did not advocate forced conversions. Instead he merely suggested that those that are in league with Satan be identified as such.
He did, however, employ a tactic that is a Nazi favourite. Inference
I wear a cross on my necklace, one on my bracelet, a WWJD rubber bracelet-thing, and a ring that contains a sliver of the true cross. I make my allegiance clear. I walk the Righteous path. You know your children are safe with me.
Yes yes yes, you have outward signs, but it’s the inward ones that count. Outward signs are a golden calf.
Now, what of the atheist? We can’t know can we?
Whenever anyone starts referring to a group in the third person singular, it’s a bad, bad, sign. Do people who talk like the below quotes sound like good, tolerant people?
‘The black man’
‘The Jew’
‘The gay’
Instead, why not refer to them as ‘atheists’, and not objectify them, making them an ‘other’ for you to fight.
All we want to know is that is we let our children talk to the man with the ‘A’ on his shirt, that he’s likely to offer them meth or try to sodomize them. Is it so wrong for a parent to want to know this.
What’s stopping any sort of predator from wearing a cross, WWJD bracelet, and a ring?
All the haters on this site need to realize that is you want to participate in grown up discussions, you need to stop comparing everyone to Nazis and stop the name calling.
True, but when Pastor Maker basically says ‘those Nazis were onto something there’, we will respond to it.
Oh, and Enola – Revelation (I normally don’t like quoting from here, since some of it is fairly opposed to what Jesus said) 13:16-17.
McGregor said
Amen Enola…a hearty AMEN
interpreted said
Confused – King Christian X FTW!
Lazarus said
Thanks for the heads up interpreted.
McGregor said
interpreted…it is true that when I first waltzed in here I was profane and mocking. I have acknowledged the sin of vanity and despaired as I read back on my hollow laughter.
Now I am laughing with the Lord…
He who laughs last is laughing with the LORD
Think on this…
Glory and PRAISE and Sanctification
BJ Tabor said
This is a Godly idea Pastor Maker. To long has the atheist menace been allowed to spread its poison undetected in America. Just look at what has happened; price of oil up, the War of Terror faltering, bridge collapses in Minnesota, we can be sure an atheist was involved in each and ever one of these problems. Why the list possible atheists crimes have done to our society is endless. We need to know who they are and what they are up to now! We need them to were these “A”s and also were GPS tracking collars so we can get a handle on the menace the present to America.
God bless you Pastor Maker. The Lord is clearly with you on this.
Lazarus said
After carefully analyzing Tabor’s comment I have come to the conclusion that these kind people are aspiring comedians.
Pasquinade's Princess said
Personally, I think Atheists should have the letter “A” BRANDED into their foreheads. That way they can have a small taste of the burning that they will surely feel when they meet their end and arrive in HELL!
WhoDat said
Interpreted,
Not that I like to nitpick but considering you attempted to poke at me for ‘not being consistant’ in a particular post you quoted, I thoguht perhaps you may want to go back and peek at who actually wrote it. You may notice that it wasn’t me, so feel free to apologise.
YIC
Geoff said
Have any of you people ever met an atheist? Ever had a conversation with an atheist? I’ve never heard of huge groups of atheists calling for all the “believers” to be marked for easy identification. Someone mentioned how all the religious jewelry they wear makes them seem safe, but I wouldn’t let my kid within 100 yards of them. Last time I checked there were a large number of clergymen who have been accused of molesting children. I haven’t heard a peep about those gangs of atheist pedophiles running loose, torturing the youth of America though.
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Jeb, FCD said
If you hypocrites are so keen to live in a theocracy, please move to Iran.
Alex said
Dehumanization people FTW.
McVenner said
I never actually thought that I would find anyone who would make me ashamed to be an American…It looks like Hitler’s legacy lives on in the land of the FREE.
interpreted said
Interpreted,
Not that I like to nitpick but considering you attempted to poke at me for ‘not being consistant’ in a particular post you quoted, I thoguht perhaps you may want to go back and peek at who actually wrote it. You may notice that it wasn’t me, so feel free to apologise.
YIC
So it was. Whups, a tremendous muck up on my part. Sorry!
WayBeyondSoccerMom said
So, you use The Scarlet Letter as your proud example of publicly branding someone for her sin, but you failed to mention who got Hester Prynne pregnant in the same book. It wsa the local preacher, remember? So, while she is forced to wear a scarlet ltter on her breast and be shunned by her community, the man who got her pregnant is preaching to the same community, with no fear of recrimination.
Forget your lack of love for your atheist brethern, I am more concerned for your lack of fair play for all sinners. You, sire, are a misognisit. The point behind The Scarlet Letter was hypocrisy. Congraulations on helping Hawthorne make his point.
Jeb, FCD said
I also liked how the “Pastor” labeled Hester as the villain. I guess she was an evil temptress who left the priest with little choice but the impregnate her. A pregnancy as punishment? These kinds of people really do need some serious education and personal reflection.
Tyler Durden said
LA Church ‘agrees abuse pay deal’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6899391.stm
More than 500 people abused by Los Angeles Catholic priests are to receive a record-breaking compensation pay-out, their main lawyer says. The deal, which a judge must approve, is reported to be worth $660m (£324m).
With the alleged abuse dating back to the 1940s, lawyer Ray Boucher said it was payment of a long overdue debt. Cardinal Roger Mahony, the leader of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, later apologised to the victims, pledging that the abuse “will not happen again”. “There really is no way to go back and give them that innocence that was taken from them. The one thing I wish I could give the victims… I cannot,” Cardinal Mahony said.
It would be the largest payment by the US Church since the abuse became public in 2002 and just before a series of trials into sex claims were to begin.
The agreement, if approved, will settle all 15 upcoming paedophilia trials against Los Angeles archdiocese and avoids the threat of Cardinal Mahony being forced to testify about how the Church dealt with abuses spanning the 1940s to 1990s.
Los Angeles diocese records released in the past revealed that for decades priests accused of child sex abuse were simply moved to new assignments or provided with therapy, Church leaders believing that they could be rehabilitated. This latest settlement calls for the release of confidential priest personnel files, Mr Boucher said. “Transparency is a critical part of this and of all resolutions,” he said.
Steven Sanchez, a plaintiff in the case, said he was both relieved and disappointed by the outcome. “I was really emotionally ready to take on the archdiocese in court in less than 48 hours, but I’m glad all victims are going to be compensated,” he said. “I hope all victims will find some type of healing in this process.”
The deal is expected to be officially announced in a joint statement to be released by the plaintiffs and archdiocese later on Sunday, and a news conference will take place on Monday. The reported figure of $660m dwarfs the $157m settlement paid out by the diocese of Boston following a child sex scandal which became public in 2002. The Los Angeles payment, which amounts to an average of $1.3m for each plaintiff, takes the total paid out by US dioceses to $2bn since 1950, with Los Angeles paying about one quarter of that.
Los Angeles is the country’s most populous Catholic diocese, serving more than three million parishioners, but the scandal has brought the archdiocese close to financial ruin. According to Church lawyers the diocese is likely to pay $250m in cash, the rest of the sum being covered by insurance and payments by religious orders.
Earlier this year, Cardinal Mahoney told parishioners in an open letter that the Church would sell its 12-storey administrative building and was considering the sale of about 50 other non-essential properties to raise funds. The abuse has also severely dented confidence in the Church and its leaders.
David Clohessy, national director of the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, said while it was the largest settlement by the Church, money was not the key objective for victims. “No settlement, no amount of money, can restore the shattered trust and the stolen childhoods and the betrayed faith of people who were wounded by abusive priests and by complicit bishops,” he said. “But, having said that, certainly this represents a tremendous achievement by these brave survivors, who somehow found the strength to come forward, report the crimes, get legal help, expose the predators and ultimately endure a pretty long, gruelling legal process.”
Since 2002 nearly 1,000 people have filed such claims against the Roman Catholic Church in California alone. In February 2004, a report commissioned by the Church said more than 4,000 Roman Catholic priests in the US had faced sexual abuse allegations in the last 50 years.
Jeb, FCD said
One more thing: have any of the “Christians” here actually read the bible? You do realize the New Testament is about redemption and forgiveness, right? You people seem to be stuck in the Old Testament. Have you any respect for Life, other than your own?
McGregor said
man is weak WayBeyond when confronted with the wicked wiles of EVE. We know ourselves to be weak and there is no hypocrasy in my statements.
This is why women should be kept at home and covered at all times…So her sinful body does not tempt.
It is only women like the chaste and benevolent Mrs Gaines Crockett that can be around other men because women like the chaste and benevolent Mrs G-C know who their Saviour is and they contain and conceal and control the mysteries of the evil EVE.
Once you have attained the knowledge and the understanding that Mrs Gaines Crockett has then you are safe to be around men.
Praise Be
McGregor said
Jeb the first part of your statement was sanctified and truth personified.
The second bit…hogwash
Lamenting
Jeb, FCD said
MacGregor,
You, sir, are an excellent satirist! Keep up the good work.
June said
I think folks should be given a test when they go to buy groceries or gasoline. They should have to list their Personal Savior and then recite a peace of scripture.
If they fail, they should have their head shaved and a red “A” tattoed on there head for ATHIEST. That ways folks will know to keep their children away from them and not to help them if, for example, they house is burning down or something.
What a glorious day it would be if then they would accept the Lord Jesus as their Savior and they could be taken to the local courthouse and have the judge finish the tatto so that it now read: “A CHRISTIAN!”
What a glorious testament to the healing, changing power of the Lord! GLory!
McGregor said
Jeb bless
I did at first think this was s a t i r e until Brother Davis took me into his arms and prodded at me constantly to read between the lines. I urge you too to look between the lines and perhaps on one of the posts made by Pastor Maker or Sister Gaines Crockett you will see the truth…
Only that simple truth will set you free.
It’s nice also to see June sober this fine God given afternoon.
Praise God for sobriety
Amen
June said
You are confusing me with that pathetic drunk Jodie.
I may take my medicine now and again but I never got sloppy drunk like that old boozer.
Poor thing wears Depends during Jeopardy so she don’t have to get up during the show! Sad, ain’t it?
Warrior Jodie said
Junes real good about taking her medication on a regular basis She does a line right after a protein breakfast another line rioght after a protein snack one after the mailman OOPS the lunch she does a line and another toot up each notsril between CLIENTS. Regular as bran flaske on an o;ld womans table.
June said
At least I don’t fall down and vomit on folks shoes, you nasty, sloppy alcoholic mess!
If anything my medicine makes me more alert — the crap you are gulping down just makes you slur your words and forget to wipe your butt when you finally make your zigzagging way to the toilet! You are disgusting and NOBODY wants to be around you. Me? I’ve got me plenty of friends — and most of them are nice looking.
I don’t need to ask if you are jealous — because you will be IF YOU EVER SOBER UP!
Praying for you . . .
Warrior Jodie said
At least I WEAR shoes. After all of the scuff marks on your ceiling you finally started going barefoot. That what a WH@RE gets when her feet are in the air 24-7 JUNE, a dirty ceiling
I thought for sure you would be dead by now When I saw the email about MOnnie passing it read Senior citizen dies I waqs so excited thinking your old butt had finally OD on something. At least there is one down and one to go. Youre next WH@RE!
McGregor said
Ah I apologise…forgive me my error…. I am still new and have only recently been saved.
Praise Be For Salvation
June said
Oh me oh my! Jealousy is sooooooooooo unattractive! LOL
What’s the matter you ole boozehound? Menfolk ain’t calling you back?
There are some days I have to take my phone off the hook and bury my cellphone in the bottom of a box of Kleenex to get me some peace — what with all the mens calling to get them another taste of June!
I’m met many wonderful men on My Space — men even your daughter whould go hog wild to get her hands on! And once they get them a taste of me its like they turn into wild monkeys on crack or something — THEY GOT TO GET SOME MORE! lol
Meanwhile, poor drunk Jodie is swatting flies in a tiny little place she can’t even afford to air condition — wondering where the buck for her next bottle of mouthwash she’s going to make her a cocktail out of is going to come from! LOL
It’s just so so so so so so so sad ain’t it?
Sylke said
Well, BeyondSoccerMom, the pastor in Hawthorn’s book couldn’t have sinned when he impregnated Miss Hester, because he was simply administering his HOLY WANG into whichever receptacle…woman…whatever you want to call it…he wanted to, in which he, as a MAN, is entitled. See this site’s section on USE and you’ll get the gist of it. A MAN cannot sin for poking! No, the pokee…the TEMPTRESS, is always to blame. Hallelujah!
And Confused, I would agree with Pastor Tobin. I’ll wear a big ‘ol A. I just want mine to be made out of lots and lots of hundred dollar bills.
Although the find Christians of this site might well be discouraged when all their riteous (cough *diaper wearing* cough) brethren wind up looking like alphabet soup after all their “letters” are affixed. But, I still say that all in all, spending lots of time confabulating a letter system to denote the sins of everyone on the planet is a much better use of time than…oh say…curing world hunger.
Warrior Jodie said
JUNE hush up for a minute and meet me in Monnies eulogy post I want to talk in private TO MANY PEOPLE in here
Teresa said
Damn you Dr. Tobin. I want to be able to work my aethist wiles undercover. That way you will never know if I’m the one bagging your groceries, or teaching your kids, or making sweet lesbian love to your wife… Now if I have to wear an “A” on my clothes it will ruin all my fun.
Billy Bob Neck said
Well, I don’t mean to be contrary but the first thing I look for is a rainbow symbol or a *u** *u** bumper sticker on the back of their car. Women who don’t wear undergarments and men who wear sandals are a big tip off, too.
But still, y’all are right – if there was something so obvious that even a pre-born could tell, that would make the world a much safer place!
God is Love!
BBN
http://www.billybobneck.com
Brother McGregor said
Teresa wrong dear…A for Adultery and then add the letter “L” for lesbo or “S” for sodomite
or all three.
All three might be appropriate, to tell you the truth I am not sure.
Perhaps Sister Gaines Crockett, our chaste and benevolent nurturer in the Lord can assist?
Brandon Explosion said
I didn’t check the other posts because there are so many and I don’t have so much time, so I don’t know if this sentiment has been echoed yet, but…
That sounds EXACTLY like what the Nazis did to the Jews in WWII.
and billy bob neck…didn’t JESUS wear sandals?
Brandon Explosion said
Everyone who agrees with this can STFU and GTFO, thanks.
Miss Mabel Gargula said
Brandon Explosion Says: “didn’t JESUS wear sandals?”
Perhaps, but they certainly weren’t GAY sandals.
June said
If Jesus wore them you had best believe they weren’t homo.
But since the Lord Walked, the homosexuals have taken over sandals just like they took over the word “gay”. Creeps!
A godless scientist said
Smile, you godless good doers!
Don’t panic if your doctor is godless
Category: Godlessness
Posted on: July 31, 2007 9:56 AM, by PZ Myers
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007/07/dont_panic_if_your_doctor_is_g.php
The researcher behind this study is “surprised and disappointed,” but I’m neither.
Although most religious traditions call on the faithful to serve the poor, a large cross-sectional survey of U.S. physicians found that physicians who are more religious are slightly less likely to practice medicine among the underserved than physicians with no religious affiliation.
In the July/August issue of the Annals of Family Medicine, researchers from the University of Chicago and Yale New Haven Hospital report that 31 percent of physicians who were more religious–as measured by “intrinsic religiosity” as well as frequency of attendance at religious services–practiced among the underserved, compared to 35 percent of physicians who described their religion as atheist, agnostic or none.
Charity, service, self-sacrifice, generosity, and kindness are human properties, not religious virtues. I wouldn’t expect a group of people from a common culture to show much substantial variation in empathy and public service along religious lines.
Despite the fact that he is disappointed in the result, I do have to commend the author for making a positive policy recommendation:
Policy makers and medical educators hoping to increase the physician supply for underserved populations should take these results into account cautiously, said the authors. “No one knows how to select medical students in a way that would actually increase the number of physicians eager to serve the underserved,” Curlin said, “but our findings suggest that admissions officials should ignore both the general religiousness of candidates and their professed sense of calling to medicine.”
FrumiousBandersnark said
Religious zealots could do humanity the same favor by wearing large flaming sacks of feces on their heads.
Brother McGregor said
Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
would be a handsome nickname I think, Frumious Bandersnatch and about those feces…
don’t be playing with dirty things like that and if you have, then wash please.
Miss Mabel Gargula said
FrumiousBandersnark Says: “Religious zealots could do humanity the same favor by wearing large flaming sacks of feces on their heads.”
You must be referring to those awful Muslim terrorists. I do not believe that their unsightly headgear actually contains feces, though. I could be wrong, I suppose.
True Scottsman said
Boy are you in trouble when you’re finally up in front of Thor and His Hammer.
Brother McGregor said
ah a Scotsman who believes in the Norse Mythology
how original
Pity the Deluded said
Shouldn’t christians be helping the poor, caring for the sick and sacrificing themselves for the less fourtunate. Seems to me the modern version of this mental virus has forgotten it’s modest roots and now parades around as an ideological disaster. I love how the christians on here revel in the hypocrisy and irony of their world view.
Pastor Tobin Maker D.D said
Pity the Deluded,
What use will the poor have for soup and blankets if their final destination is hell? We must feed and clothe the soul so that it can find eternal rest by the Lord’s side.
Better to starve to death next week with the fire of Jesus in your heart, than to live fat and contented and unsaved for the next 50 years.
Bless you.
Aaron SF said
So… he’s serious? Maker I mean?
One question if he is, what exactly does he intend people to do with the tagged atheists?
Just tag them so parents can keep their kids away or does he think they should be taken to a place designated as their own community so they can be with others of their KIND and not cast their shadow over the other sinners?
What is the IQ requirement to become a pastor?
BJ Tabor said
Pity the Deluded,
We Christians do care for our fellow man.. Can’t you see these pig fornicating atheist are hellbound? As Christians we must help them before they destroy themselves. No, not trying to help an atheist dirt bag is not caring!
Now just branding all atheists with an “A” is just the tough love they need. The shock of a third degree burn to their head will get there attention an make them wake up to the fact they have a problem. After all the first step in solving a problem is admitting you have one.
I is saddening that to the vile anti-Christian hate laws the left has pushed threw we can’t help atheists anymore like we could in the old days. I weep when I think of the number of souls lost to fires of hell because of this. Still, with Jesus’ help Senator Brownback can make it to the Presidency, change some laws and then we really can start helping these atheists in earnest.
Aaron SF said
Well no one wants to be fat Maker. But I guess you were serious, so good for all those people dying of AIDS in africa because the catholic church says “no condomns?” Cus at least they’re going to heaven?
If you start using God or heaven to justify attrocities in “this life” it becomes pretty clear Jesus is not your model for Christianity, it’s something he would never do.
Loc said
Brother McGregor,
I think I live nearby. Do you want to meet up for a “smoke” or two?
Brother McGregor said
Where do you live Loc? Just name the region to be on safe side for the sinners here could target you for unjust harassment.
Brother McGregor said
And i of course, do not smoke
Praise
Pastor Tobin Maker D.D said
Aaron,
All who accept Christ are Saved. No exceptions.
All who reject Christ and his Message of unconditional love are doomed to an eternity of sorrow and intense burning.
Bless you.
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HisWisdomReigns said
I leave to do some work down at the church and this post goes to Hell. At least the comparisons to Nazis have died down. You have to wonder, when Hitler proposed the yellow star for jews, did people go on and on with “But that’s just what the Puritans did!”
Pastor Tobin was merely suggesting we walk in the footsteps of our founding fathers. They lived a Righteous life, why shouldn’t we?
All this resistance to a perfectly reasonable suggestion is why we need a good man like Sam Brownback as President. Like Washington, he won’t worry about what the smelly Europeans once did. He’ll look to our own history for guidance. And let’s not forget, once the children start praying in schools again, there will be a lot fewer atheists out there who have to wear the letter.
interpreted,
Thank you for your response to my post. I wish you had said something that I could respond to, but as your points were so weak, I would hate to hurt your feelings by responding to them. But remember, just because someone advocates something similar to what happened in German in the 1930-40s or similar to something Hitler did, doesn’t mean that they are Nazis or Hitler-like. Although vegetarians are certainly odd, I think we can both agree that this doesn’t make them Hitler. And an atheist sodomite couldn’t wear the cross, as it would burn his skin.
Aaron SF (we do know what that means), what has led you to believe that people dying of AIDS in Africa are going to Heaven? Only through God’s grace can we be saved. No one can say for sure who is saved and who is not.
Aaron SF said
Maker,
That’s nice, but really, not the point. I thought the point of christianity was to lead by example being christlike, I just don’t see christ (the guy who sacrificed himself, said not to cast the first stone, befriended sinners etc…) wanting to mark people and sepparate them.
So I’m just saying, you sound a lot more like Hitler than Christ.
Bless you.
PS: HWR (what what means?) I didn’t mean all people dying of AIDS in africa, just the ones who contracted AIDS via the Catholic churches policy on condomn use (who would therefore presumably be catholic).
hughman said
of course A should be used for all A sins! adulterer (like Guilliani!), atheist and animal lovers! there are only 25 letters of the alphabet left! M for mormons! F for flip-floppers! everyone except the raptured christians should have a letter on their head! we could line them up into words and then watch them crumble into dust at armaggedon! it’s like wheel of fortune for jesus!
DuckTape said
I truly rejoiced upon reading this tonight. I rejoice because Sam Brownback and his ilk has a snowball’s chance in Hades of becoming president. The Invasion of The Busybodies has worn out it’s welcome in America and in literally EVERY poll, liberal ideas and values are on the rise. The next step should be for the GOP to come to it’s senses and cut loose the nutjob religious fanatics that have so badly damaged it.
Anti-Progressive Witness said
Hi Folks-
I’m new here and I want to promote Sam Brownback’s candidacy. What’s Sam’s position on this??? This would be helpful, but is it realistic? One can remove one’s clothes or would it be required on all articles of clothing? Perhaps a money fine if one is caught not wearing it?
Actually, I’ve given the idea of classification quite a bit of thought. It’s hard to tell just looking at people who you are dealing with. Might be a normal American or might be a terrorist…you never know. I thought up a mandatory ID card that could be coded “A” = Atheist, “B” = Blasphemer. “C”= Christian (that would, of course, be the highest possible rating), “D” = Democrat (lowest rating), “E” = Environmentalist….etc, through “Z” = Zionist (I couldn’t think of anything else that began with the letter Z). Of course, a person could have multiple classifications, so, on the back of the ID card, there’s plenty of room for more letters. For Example: ADGHISTVN We could also use the numbers 0-9 to define the severity of the code. For instance, A0 might be hardly an atheist while A9 might be a radical atheist. So the coding could be A3D9G2H5I5S3T8V8N0……I think this would give the authorities a much better picture of who they are dealing with than just a mugshot. My rating is C9R9V0W9 – Stong, pro-war, Christian Republican who couldn’t serve due to a medical condition (“V” = veteran)
Could someone pass this on to Mr. Brownbeck? I’m available for consulting during the weekends if interested.
Bob Baffet said
Hughman,
I like your idea – it would sure make for a short and boring scrabble game if all the letters were a’s.
God said
Dude, you guys calm down. Just hang out. Eat some nachos. Sheesh.
God said
BTW, stop posting this stuff, or I’m going to rain fire upon you.
Atheists are cool man. They’re getting into my place before you hateful christians.
God said
Also, Mr. Tobbin, you make a point to say that my love is “unconditional” and all that don’t accept it will burn in hell.
However, if my love was truly “unconditional” then i wouldn’t put any conditions on it, such as accepting it.
Food for thought.
BTW, I am not giving you a new car, stop praying for it.
La Mona said
It’s not letting me comment….
WhoDat said
Who is this blasphemous fool daring to call herself ‘g*d’. Blasted sinner.
There aren’t enough prayers for your hellbound soul young lady.
Praise the lord, the REAL one, not some foolish she child who is locked in her mothers basement attempting to irritate the true believers in hopes of attaining friends or some other such silly garbage.
We will pray for you… it won’t help, but we will try anyway. Poor lost lamb.
Ann Athiest said
As an athiest, I would proudly wear my scarlet A in solidarity with all of my non-delusional brethren. I would also recommend that in the interests of clarity, Buddhists be required to wear big red B’s, Satanists should have S’s, and Christians should be adorned with a giant G for Jesus.
Brother McGregor said
I am of course hoping for a big bright sparkly “S” and it won’t mean sinner, you foul fiends…
it will mean “SAVED”
Glory BE!!!
WhoDat said
Ann,
Poor lamb. You need a good strong man (preferably southern Baptist if they can take your constant nonsense and sinful blathering) to take you in hand and teach you how to behave like a proper lady.
I will pray for you dear sister.
God said
Dear WhoDat, stop calling me her. I am obviously male.
Don’t you read the Bible?
Rob said
I feel very sorry for you. You are a hateful person, not a christian at all. A true christian, following the teachings of christ, would have compassion and understanding for non-believers. If you truely believe in the teachings of christ, put this negative and hateful energy aside and do something positive with your life.
Aaron SF said
re: God:… riiiiiight… you’re male. I get it *wink*
Aaron SF said
re: Whodat:
Cus only men know how to be propper women?
Brother McGregor said
Rob actually we are the nice people. We are not calling anyone Nazi’s…we are calling people sinners but they oddly don’t seem to object to that.
Jerry Falwell's Ghost said
You atheists are making me roll over in my grave! If it was up to me, you atheists would all be taken out back and whipped with a garden hose like that purple teletubby! It is eternally refreshing to read the most wondrous thoughts of Rev. Maker from up here. I would have commented sooner but we only have dial-up. God bless you true believers and keep up the good work, fight the good fight, and keep the faith as you wage the most holiest of wars against the atheists. I would like to add though that my friend Jimmy Swaggart was an adulterer so we may want to cut them some slack.
GOD BLESS
PS – I thought of this idea back in the 80’s but no one took it seriously!
God said
“Rob actually we are the nice people. We are not calling anyone Nazi’s…we are calling people sinners”
Ah Brother McGregor, my fine child (gotten over that little masturbation problem I see, I’m proud of ya.)
You seem to say you are not calling people Nazi’s but sinners. However, does that mean you think Christians are above sinning? Are not all men equal in the eyes of the lord? Or perhaps if taken literally you are not calling Nazi’s sinners. Which seems an odd stance to take.
Or can’t you see the resemblance between branding a group of people you don’t like with what Hitler did to the Jews. You’re being stubborn again Brother McGregor. That is not a virtue.
Of course I know the answers to these questions, I’m just testing your faith.
WhoDat said
Teensy prayer, so you sinning, heathens can avert your eyes lest you burst into flames…
Oh Dearest Lord,
These sundry heathens (Aaron, ‘g*d’, interpreted, Rob, that poor conflicted gay fella Adam Nelson, and the rest…) are far beyond our helpful prayers, yet as benevolent Christians (republican baptists, of course) we beg you to please allow a prayer for them before you and your blessed son Jesus bust out the Jackboots of Redemption and gleefully kick shove them into the firey deapths of hell, which is clearly too good for their sinning, harlot, heathen souls.
Thank you lord.
Glory.
Brother McGregor said
Rebuking you anonymous poster pretending to be the Almighty
Get thee hence unclean!
Brother McGregor said
humbling myself
Praise be His Name
God said
Actually WhoDat, I don’t use the Jackboots of Redemption, I use the Jackhammer of justice.
KER-POW you’ve been judged.
It’s rather spiffy, though I tend not to do it gleefully.
Lori said
So sad – nothing says intolerance and hate like “true believers”.
My gods are rationality and science. They are not perfect, but they are the best option from what I have surveyed. You all can have voodoo thinking, burning of witches, and the crusades. The hypocrisy of religion and our religious “leaders” is neverending.
Aaron SF said
Ok but seriously Is this a profanity deleted* of another article, because I thought it was when I first read it but all the comments took it seriously and Mr. Maker seems to take it seriously.
Still someone else is telling me it’s a *profanity deleted*… can we get an official word on that?
PS: I’m a heathen because I don’t think people should be branded? What religion do you belong to exactly?
Brother McGregor said
and nothing says loving like Pilsbury Lori…and what is your point? That if one pokes you in the tubby belly with a trident you will scream out from hell’s brimstone and sulphur? Once you get yourself right with the Almighty then you will see things as we see them…Black and White… White is good…Black not so good.
You must nose to the grindstone and seek the answers… Do not be so hasty to judge us…We have important work to do…
Please show me this “rationality and science” as it is missing from your posting.
YIC
God said
Okay guys, enough is enough. You people, my supposed “followers” seem to be a bit misguided.
First of all, this lack of faith in me is disturbing. Calling me a harlot? Calling me a sinner? Listen, that’s no way to talk to the Almighty. No cookie for you. I mean, I know I didn’t give you any real evidence of my existence outside the Bible itself. In fact, the Bible seems to contradict most of the things science and fact has so far revealed. Creation in 6 days 10,000 years ago, the flood, etc. No miracles left any solid evidence. But you guys are supposed to have faith, you aren’t supposed to listen to silly facts and reason. After, all, that’s Satan’s way of deluding you and my way of testing you. I mean, I come into your minds while you telepathically shoot me prayers. I am watching you all the time, while you masturbate, while you have sex with your wives and husbands, while you drive from work, while you excrete, even when you pick your nose. Why is it so hard to believe that I have come to this blog, right now, to bestow upon you my wisdom?
Now you guys seem to have gotten some other things wrong, and some other things right. First of all, yeah, I’m pretty mad and hateful. After all, I doom people who don’t believe in me to suffer for eternity. So what if these are upstanding, kind people, just because they don’t believe in my story and existence means they are not worthy. Yeah I know I said I didn’t give you guys much to go on, but come on lets not nitpick. But you guys seem to be ignoring some pretty sage advice given out by me. Like stoning your disobedient children, killing adulterers, and you all seem to be ignoring my instructions on how to sell your children into slavery. Read it, it’s in the Bible, Jesus Christ you guys. I didn’t dictate my will to humankind for what’s convenient to be believed and the rest ignored.
But also, then there is my softy side. Love your neighbor, all men are equal in my eye, turn the other cheek, and my favorite: Leave unto Ceaser which is Ceaser’s. You all seem to be ignoring this also. Taking glee in the fact that another human will die and suffer? That’s not loving at all. You people are sadistic. Hell is too good for Atheists? You mean you actually want someone to suffer MORE than the worst possible suffering they can imagine? Come on, that’s not loving at all. And you are definitely not giving Ceaser his due. Trying to take over America and turn it into a Christian country, that goes specifically against what I said. Don’t you guys pay attention to your media, look at Afghanistan, that’s what happens when a country is ruled by a religion and not by secular common sense.
Wow I’m really disappointed in my creations today.
Brother McGregor said
Skips past the vile imposter to minister to Aaron…
No it is the real thing. We do not have time for humour. I thought as you did not so long ago and mocked. I came in here with photos of me in a kilt. Women were sending me their phone numbers hastily typed on msn and skype messages.
Then it came to me…exactly what Pastor Maker and Mrs Gaines Crockett had been witnessing to and minstering on…
The kilt was decadence and sublime sin…but sin none the less….From that one thing, I found myself deeply moved to examine other reckless aspects of my life.
I assure you, this is no farce….
Praise
Aaron SF said
parody parody parody
Aaron SF said
Ok Brother: Now I think you’re being sarcastic?
Aaron SF said
*UnChristian Profanity deleted* is a profanity?
ophalia said
Articles like this and sicussion that stoops to petty name-calling makes Jesus cry.
Shame on all of you “christians”. You’re a blemish on the goodness of christianity
God said
He’s not being sarcastic.
I really don’t like kilts.
Brother McGregor said
you do? Sometimes I think the Catholics are on to something when they hand out penance. No joke…No time for that Aaron…search inside yourself. You obviously came here for the truth.
YIC
God said
Actually people come here to see how scary you folks are.
Believe me, I would know, being the I Am.
Brother McGregor said
So now you have seen…what’s keeping you in here? Confess that you want our assistance. There is no shame in that…
You have already spread your shame about for all to see.
So tell us why are you here? Are you so stupid you didn’t quite get the message yet? How many times do you need to see how “scary” we are before you get the picture?
For an obviously bright fellow…you’re sort of dense.
YIC
God said
Personally, I like messing with you guys. Who said I don’t have a sense of humor?
clouded_perception said
This is a parody, right? Please tell me it’s a parody.
Have you readers seen the atheist shirts on sale on richarddawkins.net? Are they available here? (I assume the author knows what I’m talking about because they’ve used the same ‘A’.)
Godless Atheist said
Quote
“All who accept Christ are Saved. No exceptions.
All who reject Christ and his Message of unconditional love are doomed to an eternity of sorrow and intense burning.
Bless you.”
Unquote…
I reject christ and his unconditional love….
Now… can someone pass the BBQ sauce please…?
(after reading this nonsense, Christians seem to be getting more and more like Nazis every day…
AwedbyTruth said
I am a Brownback supporter and have met Brownback personally. He would not agree with this letter.
“The villain of the story is Hester Prynne, who commits the sin of adultery. As a result she receives God’s fitting and inevitable punishment in the form of a baby, which she must bear…” Hum… never knew babies were punishments….
Oh my goodness… This person needs to take a course in literary evaluation. There is no way you can read this book and think Hester Prynne is the villian. Everyone knows that the villian in this story is her husband (who is not the baby’s father). Get informed or don’t write such nonsense.
Also, I know plenty of Athiest who are pro-life and obviously a lot more intelligent than the person who wrote this letter.
Lary Crews said
Okay. We did as you asked and put a scarlet A on our blog.
The authors of The Bible (No. God did not write it!) were among the world’s first plagarists, borrowing from myths older than themselves to create the mythical figure they called Jesus Christ.
Almost all the events of the supposed life of Jesus appear in the lives of OTHER mythical figures of far more ancient origin. Nearly all such ’signs’ had been ascribed to other gods, centuries before any Jewish holy man strolled about. Christ’s supposed utterances and wise statements are equally common place, being variously stolen from Jewish scripture, neo-Platonic philosophy or commentaries made by Stoic and Cynic sages.
Here are five fictional gods who served as the basis for the mythical Jesus Christ:
Three thousand years BEFORE the Alleged Christ there was the mytical Egyptian savior known as Horus.
He was born of a virgin on December 25 in a manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men. At 12, he was a child teacher in the Temple, and at 30, he was baptized in the river Jordan by “John the Baptist”. He had 12 desciples, two of whom were his “witnesses.” He performed miracles. Horus walked on water. He delivered a “Sermon on the Mount”. He was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and resurrected. – He was also described at the time as the “Way, the Truth, the Light,” “Messiah,” “God’s Anointed Son,” “the “Son of Man,” the “Good Shepherd,” the “Lamb of God,” the “Word made flesh,” the “Word of Truth,” etc. – He was “the Fisherman” and was associated with the Fish. – Horus was called “the KRST,” or “Anointed One.” – Like Jesus, “Horus was supposed to reign one thousand years.”
Next, just twelve hundred years BEFORE the alleged Christ there was the mythical Greek god named Attis.
Attis was born on December 25 of the Virgin Nana. He was considered the savior who was slain for the salvation of mankind. His body as bread was eaten by his worshippers. His priests were “eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven.” He was both the Divine Son and the Father. On “Black Friday,” he was crucified on a tree, from which his holy blood ran down to redeem the earth. He descended into the underworld. After three days, Attis was resurrected on March 25 (the same day later claimed for Jesue) and called the “Most High God.”
Also twelve hundred years before the alleged Christ there was the mytical Persion god, Mithra.
Mithra was born of a virgin on December 25 in a cave, and his birth was attended by shepherds bearing gifts. He had 12 companions or disciples. He performed miracles. Mithra sacrificed himself for world peace. He was buried in a tomb and after three days rose again. His resurrection was celebrated every year. His sacred day was Sunday, the “Lord’s Day,” hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ. His religion had a eucharist or “Lord’s Supper,” at which Mithra said, “He who shall not eat of my body nor drink of my blood so that he may be one with me and I with him, shall not be saved.”
Then, just nine hundred years before the allged Christ, there was Krishna in India.
Krishna was born of the Virgin Devaki (“Divine One”) on December 25. His earthly father was a carpenter. He died around the age of 30 on a tree, crucified between two thieves. He rose from the dead and ascended to heaven. He was deemed the “Son of God” and “our Lord and Savior,” who came to earth to die for man’s salvation.
One more. Just five centuries before the alleged Christ, there was Dionysus, a Greek god. Dionysus was born of a virgin on December 25 and, as the Holy Child, was placed in a manger. He was a traveling teacher who performed miracles. He was the God of the Vine, and turned water into wine. Dionysus rose from the dead on March 25. He was considered the “Only Begotten Son,” Savior,” “Redeemer,” “Sin Bearer,” Anointed One.”
And, of course, we all know the story of Jesus Christ because we just read it FIVE times.
The earliest defenders of an earthly flesh and blood historical Jesus came along in the 2nd century, and even at that time none of them were able to provide proof for the existence of Jesus, instead they relied on theological reasoning and scriptures to support their claims, eventually winning out through political force, not the validity of their claims.
That is why we here at Rational Thought are certain there was no Jesus Christ.
JustMe said
I don’t know how anyone can truly believe that sinners should be “branded” with a letter/symbol representing their specific sin. Everyone has sinned, everyone has fallen short–why is it that only those who remain lost should be branded? Christians are supposed to reach out to them, not brand them, ignore them, condemn them. Whatever happened to love?
Lary Crews said
You’re saying atheists are worse than Christians? Wow.
JustMe said
If that^^is referring to me, no. I really don’t think one person is better than another, Christian or not.
Confused said
Larry Crew, you’re my new best friend.
FrumiousBandersnark said
Tobin:
I find it curious that you did not mention the character of Arthur Dimsdale, the reverend and father of Hester Prynne’s child, whose cowardice led him into silence when he should have spoken up. I find it interesting that the only theme you found to be of any significance was punishing the woman. Considering that the book focussed on the outting, for lack of a better word, of Dimsdale and exposing his true character, I can only assume that you found Hawethorne’s critique of the hypocrisy and arrogance of the morally self-righteous to be a little too accurate for comfort. Personally, I don’t care about your private perversions; the ones you display in public are grotesque enough. While you may have the fire o’ jeebus in your heart, the spark in your cerebellum was extinguished many years ago. Hence my suggestion for your hat.
WhoDat said
Frumious Whatever your name is.
Why would the poor man who was guilty of nothing other than being easily manipulated by some trashy harlot, probaby just after his money, be considered bad in any way? Poor Brother Dimsdale simply got steamrolled by a filthy, oversexed, hellbound, wicked woman. Clearly he was lured by satan.
BJ Tabor said
Whatever happened to love?
By branding atheists on the forehead will be helping them JustMe and helping someone is love. Atheists need to understand hating God will get them into serious trouble.
JustMe said
That is not love! That is creating a huge divide between Christians and nonChristians–you really think those branded would care to hear about Jesus? That is not loving. Love is kind–it does not sound kind at all to point out peoples’ sins to the world.
FrumiousBandersnark said
WhoDat: your reading comprehension skills leave much to be desired. Go back and read the book again.
CRasch said
I may not be an Atheist, but I do think like most atheist.
I’m surprised that people here think its good to brand and go back to the days of Equal but Separate Segregation. You guys sound exactly the same as the Nazi’s in WW2 marking the Jews in concentration camps.
Is your faith so wobbly that you fear even a converse with a atheist who uses logic and rationality?
WhoDat said
Dear Furious Whatever,
Why on earth would I read a book about a filthy whoring trollop who uses her feminine wiles to trap some poor defenseless man into sin, more than once? Lord knows I got the gist of it the first time.
BJ Tabor said
That is not love! That is creating a huge divide between Christians and nonChristians–
Not a bad thing friend. 2 Corinthians 6 “Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness?” I think that is very clear friend.
you really think those branded would care to hear about Jesus?
Not at first naturally, they would be screaming too much. But considering they are not listing to us now that really doesn’t change things. Instead atheists are calling us Christians think like “fairy tale believers” or “batshit nuts”. So there is hope that by looking as the mutilated foreheads in the mirror every morning they will realize that the only hope out of their misery is Christ’s unconditional love.
That is not loving. Love is kind–it does not sound kind at all to point out peoples’ sins to the world.
Friend, which is worse; a moment of public humiliation or an eternity of torment in Hell? Atheists are too locked into their dogma reason it threw rationally that they are facing an eternity of being raped by demons in The Lake of Fire. When Satan’s engorged member is slapping at the buttocks of an atheist in Hell it will be to late for that atheist to repent. Heroic measures are needed here!
Brother McGregor said
learn your history Crasch…The Hebrews were tagged with the Star long before they went to Treblinka, Belsen Bergen Auschwitz Dachau etc.
Fruminous Bandersnatch
I should have known you might be back
I heard you come whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as you came!
Brother Whodat spends long hours in here witnessing, sharing his counciland comforting as needed…
Run along before I take my vorpal blade in hand
Brother McGregor said
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness?
Brother McGregor said
my word Brother BJ…our thoughts were exactly the same
YIC
Praise PRAISE
WhoDat said
Blessed Brother McG,
So good to see you, kind, wise sir.
Let us pay no heed to Felonious Bandarbushs insane ramblings, instead let us pray for his ’soon to be engulfed in flames’ eternal soul.
YIC!
JustMe said
BJ Tabor, I must differ with you–I find it incredibly difficult to believe that a person branded by a Christian would then turn around and accept Jesus Christ as their Savior. As far as I recall, wearing that letter A did nothing to change Hester’s views about God/church. I would imagine, if full scale branding actually took place (thank goodness this will never happen), the branded people would gather together, completely separating them from Christians. We do live in this world, whether we like it or not. It is inevitable that we will meet people who disagree with us, but, if they are not Christians, we cannot hold them to our standards. They are not bound by the same law and rules we are. We cannot judge them–we can only be witnesses.
JustMe said
WhoDat–I’m sorry, but do you honestly pray for someone to be damned for ever? Does that not seem cruel to you? Should you not, rather, pray for his salvation?
Brother McGregor said
Amen Brother Whodat AMEN!
He writes in the style of a certain Lewis Caroll, a well known and documented pedophile
I trust you are deep in prayer of the recent distresses caused to our beloved and Chaste Mrs Gaines Crockett?
I will also add that malcontent frum… but believe my energies ought to go to a better, more visionary and noble person like Mrs G-C.
Brother McGregor said
justme..if I were to approach you with a scalding hot poker with a glowing RED A on it…my guess is you would pray to just about anyone to get you out of that predicament!
YIC
JustMe said
Brother McGregor–is that really what you are going for? A false proclamation of dedication to God (or any God). I don’t know that I would. I am a Christian and nothing could make me pray to anything besides God.
La Mona said
That’s like a forced confession….basically null and void.
Oh, and Christians are called to “share” their faith not force-feed it.
God said
Ah, Brother McGregor, threatening to seriously hurt people for me.
While your dedication seems admirable, your methods leave much to desire.
Brother McGregor said
no of course not but she did pose the question
YIC
The Disgruntled Chemist said
A baby is “God’s fitting and inevitable punishment”? I wouldn’t want to be a member of any religion that honestly believed that.
I kinda like babies.
JustMe said
I like babies too.
Gifts from God….despite what Maker says.
BJ Tabor said
JustMe,
If you are a Christian like you say, why are you arguing with us about helping scumbag atheists? Are you so cold and callus that you could careless whether these atheists walking piles of dirt are condemned to hell or not? Somebody like Dawkins is in eminent danger of dying in a car accident, or meteor or drive by shooting or some other act of God. It will be too late for them then.
Were is your love for your fellow man?
JustMe said
I’m arguing because I don’t agree with much of what is being said. There are better ways to help atheists–that includes cutting down on the name calling. Is this site real—or is it some kind of *profanity deleted*?
The Disgruntled Chemist said
I’m a “walking pile of dirt”, eh?
Yeah, I’ll be joining the Jesus club real soon…
I’m really feeling the love for your fellow man (me) there, BJ.
WhoDat said
Why would anyone think for a split second that we don’t love babies. We love them all, from regular babies, to the retarded ones, even the brown ones, the mixed breeds, and the bastard babies of filthy tramps.
Babies are precious. Each one a miracle.
Glory
The Disgruntled Chemist said
OK, that has to be *profanity deleted*.
Brother McGregor said
Kind but Stern Truthful words, Brother Whodat.
Praise Be
JustMe said
It appears that my last comment didn’t get posted….so I’ll try again. I’m arguing because I don’t agree with a lot that is being said. There are other ways to go about helping atheists. Numero uno–cut down on the name calling.
Brother McGregor said
Disgruntled…it is because you LACK Jesus that you are the walking pile of Dirt. Do you not see this? Brother BJ is merely pointing out the obvious. Your lack of faith is why you do not see the glory and remain as a WPOD.
Your own chosen nickname for this forum suggests to us you want more…You did not come in here as “Happy as a Pig in Poop Chemist”, did you?
Do not try to transfer your own unhappiness on us when it is plain to see that Brother BJ has tried to show you the Light.
Glory Glory
Brother McGregor said
Gay people are sodomites, that’s clearly allowed because the Bible states it. A loose woman with no values is a Harlot-also allowed.
The only name calling I have seen is from the pinko lieberals that have swarmed in here like a plague of locust.
Hosannas to the Highest
Miss Mabel Gargula said
It’s not hateful to speak the truth. As Brother McGregor so eloquently stated, gay people ARE sodomites. That’s not name calling. Sheesh.
Glory, whole of His love.
JustMe said
Since when were we talking about gay people? I do not think we need to be calling people scumbags or piles of dirt–stuff like that.
interpreted said
Thank you for your response to my post. I wish you had said something that I could respond to, but as your points were so weak, I would hate to hurt your feelings by responding to them. But remember, just because someone advocates something similar to what happened in German in the 1930-40s or similar to something Hitler did, doesn’t mean that they are Nazis or Hitler-like. Although vegetarians are certainly odd, I think we can both agree that this doesn’t make them Hitler. And an atheist sodomite couldn’t wear the cross, as it would burn his skin.
Wow. So setting up mass rallies, branding your opponents, et al, aren’t Nazi actions? The reason for the yellow stars was to objectify the Jews, and make them the ‘other’ – the reason for your scarlet ‘a’s is to objectify atheists, and make them the other. Also, I’m a vegetarian.
I also like your reasoning – ‘my arguments are so awesome, they don’t even have to be enunciated!’.
Also, I tried your experiment. I found an atheist acquaintance, and gave him a cross. He put it on. No burning, I’m afraid.
Brother McGregor said
Well yes you could be right but in this instance you’re not.
Someone who is not saved is clearly dirt correct? What do you do with your trash? Do you keep it or throw it out?
Just like the End of Time and Judgement…The Almighty is going to put those of you who are his precious jewels, Brother Yancy, Sister Gaines Crockett, Pastor Maker, Brother Whodat, Dottie, Helen, the indomitable Miss Mabel Gargula, Pastor Davis to name but a blessed few off to the side where the good righteous people will stand….Therein they stand in Glory forever…
And that trash? Well my word!!! He is going to toss it all away!!!
Praise His Holy Name
harkey said
Kids don’t die from abortion that’s such an oxymoron. Guess what I’m not going to vote for Brown just to negate your vote. Thanks for the laughs with this site. This article in particular proposes such an incredibly ludicrous suggestion.
God said
Oh Brother McGregor, you believe my love is unconditional, as long as someone accepts it. You believe that babies are miracles, but also punishments, you believe that I accept all people as my children, but I will throw the majority away.
You are a very confused man Brother McGregor. Perhaps you should listen to me when you pray instead of listening to yourself.
ophalia said
isn’t it lovely that so called christians call their fellow man dirt, trash, and other awful names? All of you so called christians are pathetic. Pull out your bible, you obviously need it more than the atheists do.
Linus said
ophalia: They’re *unChristian term deleted*, quite so. Click on my *unChristian term deleted*…
On the offchance that I’m in fact wrong… you know that The Scarlet A is condemnatory towards those like you, the angry mob?
Brother McGregor said
Ophalia…I doubt it. When I read my Bible It strengthens my resolve…it’s precisely the atheists that need to be opening the Book.
UnChristian said
The fact is that without the holy word of god beaten into their un appreciative brains, atheists will go to hell.
And if atheists are going to hell and refuse to believe, they might as well be a plague, and that plague should be terminated so that it doesn’t spread to any of God’s children.
BJ Tabor said
Ophalia,
The central point of The Bible is humanity is so utterly evil it deserves damnation for the crime of existing unless it redeems itself with God. From a Christian view point humans are trash, dirt and excrement. Only Jesus can change that. As I have said before I love my fellow man, even atheists, and I do not want to see them reduced to just another orifice for Lucifer to violate in Hell.
Aaron SF said
Good times.
Brother McGregor said
Someone asked if atheists forced Christians to be marked as such.
I’d like to respond. True Christians are already marked. They are marked by their piety and respect and devotion to God and all His works.
When the day comes and it will; When the beast rules for his limited time, the Christian will be marked. The Christian will be tortured until death. He that refuses the sign (mark) of the beast will find it very tough going.
Don’t speak of things like they would never be contemplated….The fact that Christians will be persecuted for His Name Sake has already been ordained and prophesied.
YIC
Jerry Falwell's Ghost said
Oh not this discussion again! Since when were atheists allowed to use computers? Certainly not in my church, they weren’t. All of you that say you’re christians and take up sides with these Atheists are obviously spies, sent to infiltrate our blessed churches and spread your heathen ministry. Don’t you see? This brand isn’t a bad thing, it’s just to make sure you can’t spy on christians anymore and report back to your queen. The brand is a security system of sorts, like Sloman’s Shield. Except a Sloman’s Shield that will prevent you from sleeping with our women and teaching christian children about free expression. Don’t take it personal. I better get going now. I have a tennis match with Stevie Ray Vaughn.
GOD BLESS
Chris said
Funny. Very funny. Unfortunately, this is the true underlying message of any fundamentalist apocalyptic belief system, whether it is spoken aloud or not.
Victor Purinton said
I think it’s a terrible idea. Athiests shouldn’t brag about their grades in school.
Becka said
this makes me sick. it’s people like you that turn people away from God. God would NEVER condone this kind of action.
besides….YOU would end up needing a Scarlet Letter as well, along with everyone who takes a breath. we ALL fall short of the glory of God; we ALL sin. it only by grace that we are saved.
furthermore…we are called to be Christ-like. Jesus was all about mercy and grace. he freaking ate with sinners!! so if you’re too good to associate with “sinners”, are you claiming to be better than even Jesus?
Aaron SF said
Is that why atheists should be marked with an “A”
And Christians with a “C”?
Oh that’s you BMG Piety, respect… totally you. So if you want the end times to happen soon why are you lobbying for a candidate to make america into a place where it would be unlikely? Shouldn’t you be lobbying for some sort of Christian Registration program?
Brother McGregor said
To my knowledge Christ never freaked over anything, Becka.
There was of course that matter at the temple with the money lenders but I think we can call that “Righteous Wrath”.
YIC
Brother McGregor said
I would support the candidate who closely followed the Scriptures. In this case, it’s Sam Brownback but if the name was Ralph Boogersnotz and he faithfully adhered to the Scriptures then I would support him.
It is about the candidate that reflects my opinions that is who I am supporting. No doubt you would foolishly support the candidate that reflected your personal opinions.
This is not rocket science…
God said
Brother McGregor do you really want someone who follows my word to lead you?
Stoning children, homosexuals, adulterers. Legalizing slavery and polygamy. I was feeling pretty raunchy when I dictated those to my followers, wouldn’t exactly recommend them now.
June said
NOTICE: The person posting as “Veronica” is just a Negress.
Ignore her.
ophalia said
what’s wrong with someone being black? Last time I checked God made everyone, therefore he loves everyone. God wouldn’t make you less than.
and BJ whatever, if you don’t want to see them go to hell or whatever delusion, try not calling them trash. You gather more with honey than vineger. In the end, God judges, not you, and no matter what you say nothing gives you the right to claim to know what God will do to an individual person.
I thought the point of the bible was yes you’re a sinner, everyone is, but there’s hope beyond this life.
And if you read he bible and feel it strengthen your resolve to be self rightious jerks you should probably go back to school and consider taking a class on reading comprehension
Scarlet Letter Campaign Update: A Victory! « Baptists For Brownback 2008 said
[...] friends, just 48 hours after I first suggested atheists and their products be clearly identified by a scarlet letter “A”, we have our first [...]
God said
Er, you’re lying again.
The scarlet A is *profanity deleted*
I see all. You cannot get away with that.
June said
“what’s wrong with someone being black?”
I don’t personally bear any of them folks any ill will, but apparently the Lord does.
All you have to do is look around to see that . . .
Brother Yancy said
Dear Sister June
This evening I requested prayer for Veronica, who I THOUGHT might wipe the tears of Jesus someday if she repented. I had no idea of her possible Negritude, as I left for meeting before this was revealed. Do forgive me.
Sister, I must relate an inspiring story taht came out of Men’s Fellowship this evening. I hope you have time. I had the great good fortune to sit next to out bran new Youth Pastor, Steve, this eveing who is a very experienced man for his age, having ministered to youth in congregations in 13 different states in just over the past 6 years! Can you imagine all that upheaval and moving about? As he is unmarried, as I am myself, I have no doubt that it was much easier for this exceptional young man to go to where he was needed to tend to young true Christians crying out for his guidance. Praise God for young people of his ilk. Triumphal! Abundant!
I thought you might enjoy hearing of his sacrifice for Christ.
YIC
Brother Yancy
God said
Ah I see, you deleted my remark because it *profanity delected*
You should not treat your God as such.
Go to *unChristian term deleted*.
God said
*profanity deleted*
Brother McGregor said
Brother Yancy…So glad to hear that tonights meeting was a success! And what a treat to be in the presence of someone so obviously devoted. Praise Be! And I was gently amused to hear your faint vanity with regards to your apparel tonight. Between you and me I imagined you must have looked smashing!
Praise BE
Loc said
Holy Quaternary God. Love thy soul. Blessed adnd GLORY to above. *profanity deleted*
PRAISED unChristian words deleted*
Glory
Peace
Brother
Sister art though
Show me the moon
Earth = 6000 years old
NOw
I’m right
yep
NO…….I’m not retarded…*unChristian words deleted*.;
ophalia said
God does not favor whites over blacks. Actually, it’s no color skin over any other.
*profanity deleted*your lack of intelligence and compassion sadly is probably not
Miss Mabel Gargula said
Miss June,
Please know that I am not trying to quarrel with you, but I must ask: are you positive about your comments about Veronica? I only ask because it is such a serious accusation that you make, and I hope you do not do so lightly.
Glory, Whole of His Love!
decrepitoldfool said
Gaah! The exposure of our sinister plans! It burns, it burns!!!
NOW how will we convince America’s schoolchildren that gay sex and drug use are better than marriage and church attendance?
Brother McGregor said
Dear benevolent Sister Mabel
In my short time here witnessing…I have found that whilst Sister June’s insights are often slighty “skewed” , she still seems to nail the hammer right on the button. I would trust her. I am shaken muchly by the thought that I have been arguing (as positively as I can) with one from the cursed flock of Ham.
YIC
Brother Yancy said
Dear Brother McGregor
Many thanks for your kind words. In fact, Youth Pastor Steve did comment on my choice of wardrobe and I was much pleased, I rebuked myself somewhat when I got him, in case I was too prideful.
Yes, he is inspiring to be around. Prase God for such sbundant good works!
It is distressing to hear of Veronica’s possible Negritude. I suppose we shall hear from her Monday. Sister June is so preceptive!
YIC
Brother Yancy
My tee-voe somehow malfunctioned last night so I am unable to say if Brother Anderson Cooper wore a kilt on his broadcast last night or if he had the night off. No doubt he is praying and fasting for stength to combat his malignant narcissism.
BY
Brother Yancy said
I meant “home”. Of course I didn’t mean “him”. A slip of the fingers.
BY
Brother McGregor said
Dear Brother Yancy…we are human and even (in my opinion) the most humble in the Shadow of the Almighty might be permitted from time to time to take small pleasures from a meal well cooked…a job performed admirably or to be clothed in a style, smart and crisp because one knows this Does Please The Lord.
Are we not pleased when a small child gladly looks at the bright balloons that we may thriftily purchase from time to time (one needs to be wary and coins should be tithed as much as possible). When we come home from arduous labour and present our Christian wife with a small offering of God’s naturally artistic flowers? Be it not said, we Baptists are cold…heartless…
Verily when one does his best or looks his best in Service, then I think a small vanity is allowed.
Worry not on it…You were not smote down for your small sin of pride…I am sure our Dear Heavenly Father looked down and smiled as well. He is a kind and gentle Father to the true Christian.
Note: it is only the others…the pagans, sodomites, pinko lesbo slatterns, harlots and other nefarious groups that He despises.
Rob (A) said
what a load of bull you racist scumbag(s lost count of how many of you there is) what ever happened to love and forgivness if you stamp A on my forehead I’ll stamp more than a letter on yours
we are not molesters or theives heck atheist have the LOWEST crime rate and marking people out is stupid you guys could never get to me anyways I’ve a got a fence and a .270
brother mcgregor-does your god tell you to rape and kill non christians you make me want to give C-4 blocks to terrorists
if the USA was a christian nation I would move to Canada
another idea which I think you should have come up withis give us CA for a gay and atheist nation I would be ok with that for I will sail on beaches of golden sand while you freeze your butt of in in Maine
June said
“God does not favor whites over blacks.”
Apparently you have never been to Africa! LOL
Brother McGregor said
Why would I ever be in Maine? I am A Scottish (working on that bit) South Baptist who is actually working in Canada presently. I do not recall even suggesting that our Most Heavenly Almighty has ordained that we should rape. Where do you get your misguided foolish ideas from? A word of advice…Do not harken to Veronica…it is felt she is from the cursed Tribe of Ham. Anything she says is questionable at best and sacrilege at its worst)
YIC
June said
And just so we are clear — I don’t KNOW that she is a Negress.
But she sure sounds like it!
And when you are accused of something like that and you don’t deny it — well that just speaks volumes!!!!!
ophalia said
who cares what color her skin is. it doesn’t affect who she is as a person
Pastor Tobin Maker D.D said
Ophalia,
I suggest to you that if I attempted to become a member of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, my skin color would prevent me from receiving a membership card and its unlimited benefits.
That is because the heads of the NAACP would see the whiteness of my skin and would judge me by it.
The persecution of the White Christian American Male grows worse by the day.
Bless you.
Brother Yancy said
Dear Brother M
Thanks so much for your words of reassurance. I am rereading the passages relating to Noah and Ham and meditating upon them.
Praise be!
YIC
Brother Yancy
Confused said
The persecution of the White Christian American Male grows worse by the day.
HA! Thanks for that. I haven’t laughed that hard since… well, since I read some of your last posts.
Ann O'Maly said
Isn’t it tooearly un the year for Christmas carrols?
Ohnhai said
Firstly. this is not Tobin’s idea. This is actually part of the *unChristian words deleted* as instigated by *profanity deleted*.
That’s right. *unChristian words deleted*
I for one will proudly wear it. I WANT you to know I am an Atheist. I want you to know that I belive that God does not exist and all your appologetic handwaving is empty and void without that single foundation stone.
I want you to know that I will not tolerate any attempt of any religious interference or imposition into my life.
I want you to know that there are far more of us ‘Atheists’ out there than you can even dream of.
I want the Atheists to wake up and come together as a single lobbying group. We totally out number the Jewish people and look what lobbying power they have. We atheists are on the whole extremely intelligent. Probably more so than any other group when defined by religious beliefs, think what we can achive when we stand together.
do you REALLY want to do what we have so far failed to do? that is unite us as one cohesive whole? ’cause that is what you would do. It’s like uranium. you bring enough of it together and it explodes with an almost unimaginable force. If you force atheists together then you will give them unity of direction and purpose. You will force them over the critical mass and then may your god help you.
No, if your best move would be to keep the atheists, diffuse, isolated, separated, hidden. You need to resist the OUT campain not advance it…
Brother McGregor said
You’d better add a few more letters you pinko commie dyke
Get thee Hence Unclean!
Ann O'Maly said
Isn’t the red A a symbol for the University of Alabama?
Pastafarian said
So are you, by doing this any better than the Nazis? yes you are, but only in the sense that you are not planning to ship them off to concentration camps and executing them, although by some of the comments posted i would not put it past you.
Lets look at what you said
You are saying that being an Aeithest is a bigger sin than Baby Killing and/or Adultry.
Think about it… What is worse? going out with an Impressivly Large Sword and murdering babies or not having a belief in god?
Another thing, you said that “They hide their sinister cult”. Are you trying to say that all of the Aeithest’s in the world are secretly meeting up to discuss, well, i don’t know, what thier not going to choose to belive in next?
look at the definiton for atheist: Disbelief in the existence of God or gods. now insted of persecuting them, which would probably push them away from you even more. why not try and give them a reason to belive in your god. and if that fails why not let them do as they feel? i mean, its no more trouble to you to hate them in solice whithout persecuting them in a public way.
I know that what I or anyone else says has little or no bearing in the grand scheme of things but i like to have my opinions know to all
May The Flying Spaghetti Monster Bless You All,
RAmen
An Anonamous Pastafarian
Maura Ghee said
Pastafarians are worse than atheists.
Pastafarian said
More than likely
r0cketscientist said
Actually, we (atheists) already have the option to mark ourselves:
*unChristian link deleted*
Recommended reading for all Christians:
“Sins of the Scripture” by Reverend John Shelby Spong
*unChristian link deleted*
Proud member (curious Christians should visit these sites):
American Atheists – *unChristian link deleted*
Freedom from Religion Foundation – *unChristian link deleted*
Atheist Alliance International – *unChristian link deleted*
unChristian Bastard said
Remember that Christianity is indeed a minority. But stupidity has a majority. That’s the basis of how Christianity spread. He who doesn’t believe in an imaginary deity, is a realist. That crazy book of ancient stories is just that. Remember that these people have little education in the true ways of the world, therefore they believe what they’re fed. It’s a control thing, and they are just losers.
Ironic that articles like this come out, then people’s comments say Atheists are full of hatred. The people full of fear are those that believe that if they don’t act in a certain way, they will go to enduring punishment. LIke being a little kid who doesn’t eat their veggies. It’s silly, really. They’re living a silly world, doing silly things. Not a good way to spend your life.
unChristian Bastard said
Hahaha…moderation. We’ll see if that gets through. You filter out things you can’t handle, yet you don’t see what it is you are doing to yourselves. Pathetic, really.
Pastor Tobin Maker D.D said
unChristian Bastard,
Unfortunately our filter caught your posts, as the computer could not know that your name is merely a statement of fact, and not a profanity.
I personally approved their publication, because I want people to see the sort of persecution and abuse Christians in America face each and every day.
Hoping you are filled with Jesus fire real soon.
Brother McGregor said
Some kind of fire at least, Pastor. You certainly told him a thing or two.
These deluded heathen atheists come in and make their pronouncements and honestly, they must think we have never heard it before. I find it interesting that each one comes in and blathers on and on the same redundant prattle and expect us to say “oh wow, I never considered that before…You must be onto something!”
If they are to argue their cause or lack of a cause, I really wish they would be more imaginative.
YIC
ophalia said
Going to africa has nothing to do with anything. Yes, in some places the quality of life is not great, but you cna find those places here in america. There are actually amny clean, advanced places in africa, and to toss them aside because of some weak spots would be lie…well…throwing away christianity becaue of whacks like you.
Oh, and pastor whatever, excusing bad behavior with other bad behavior does not justify it. And, you would be admitted. There are white members, among other skin colors, in the NAACP. You would be deniedbecause youre an idiot, not becuase you’re white
Praise God that there’s an opprotunity to at least try to get through to the misled such as you
Rob (A) said
Ohnhai-great job there and he does have a point christians count for 24% of the worlds population but comment 40% of the worlds crime.
atheists count for 6% in the USA and 9%(population wise) world wide but have the one of the lowest crime rates
you’re devided and kill each other all the time but think you should
r0cketscientist said
The scarlet letter post that I made above included a link to *profanity deleted*‘ website, which sells *profanity deleted* atheists. I thought about getting one, but decided that it would require too much thought for most people to understand what it is that I am representing.
One of my personal favorites is the *profanity deleted*, but that isn’t exactly true because of the onslaught of constitution by the neoconservatives (mostly, if not entirely Christian). We are moving closer and closer to a fascist theocracy where private financial organizations are running the democratic and republican parties and our federal reserve system. Bow to the gods – the major financial institutions of America.
r0cketscientist said
The fact the my posts were edited to remove those links can only indicate that the church or at least some of its members want to censor what its people see. Everyone viewing this page should have the right to click or not click on a link. And if the people posting on this blog do not want to hear from people with different views, then you should request that public posting be removed. I will attempt to post the links again:
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Actually, we (atheists) already have the option to mark ourselves:
*profanity deleted*
Recommended reading for all Christians:
“ *profanity deleted*” by *profanity deleted*
(Interesting. This Christian link was to a church diocese web site and it was deleted)
Proud member (curious Christians should visit these sites):
*profanity deleted*
*profanity deleted*
*profanity deleted*
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A mind is like a parachute – it only functions when open.
r0cketscientist said
It looks like the moderator is afraid of free thought. That reflects on your religion and confirms what we already know. The closest thing to real Christianity in this country in my opinion is the Unitarian Universalist Church. It accepts all beliefs, including agnostic and atheist people. Their prinicples from their site:
There are seven principles which Unitarian Universalist congregations affirm and promote:
* The inherent worth and dignity of every person;
* Justice, equity and compassion in human relations;
* Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations;
* A free and responsible search for truth and meaning;
* The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large;
* The goal of world community with peace, liberty, and justice for all;
* Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.
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“Always question authority, revelation and tradition. Critical thinking is necessary.” – Me
Brother McGregor said
Rob (A)
Just how do you support your statistics? Put up the source or shut up about it.
I await…Yours In Christ.
Brother McGregor said
Rocketscientist…When you come to our House…keep your porn to yourself, TIA
This isn’t some blasted hippy commune where you can leave your filth on the coffee table. Respect it or we will show you the door. I am sure most of the people here know how to use google to see other points of view if they want them.
YIC
Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett said
Dear Rocket Scientist,
You must be drunker than a priest at Mardi Gras if you think we will permit you to expose the good people here to the blasphemous doctrine of the Unitarians. The only thing we need to know is that you people are united in going stright to Hell. Preferably sooner than later.
Good day, Sir.
r0cketscientist said
Brother McGregor/Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett,
Your responses indicate that rational and critical thinking do not exist in your beliefs. I’d like to ask you both a question. How literal is the Christian bible?
I suppose that you both believe that evolution does not exist. Is this correct? Or do you hold a view that God created evolution? Is it plausible that the world is more than 5000 years old? Do you believe that dinosaurs co-existed with man?
I am not asking these questions to start a fight, rather to find your points of view. Regarding the suggestion for Unitarians to go straight to hell – since they are of mixed beliefs, some of them do not believe in hell so they would be hard pressed to think that they would go there.
I am not a member of the UU because of their shared theistic beliefs. The only evidence that I have seen that indicates there is a hell is religion, which is not fact-based when it comes to the superstitions and supernatural taught by them. In other words, there is no real proof that a afterlife hell exists. If there is, please provide a reference, preferably one that includes some fact-based findings like the irrefutable evidence that gravity exists.
Sincerely.
Mike Hunt said
I love how the Xtians set the standard for love in the replies (and initial blog) here. All I see here are Xtians telling everyone else to “shut up”. Grow up. The point of conversation is to learn something about the person you are talking to. The last thing in the world I’d ever want to be associated with is this close-minded brainwashery.
Brother McGregor said
Both of you Mike Hunt and rocketscientists are daft bints…so shut up
PTL
KC said
There are some beautiful lessons that can be learned from history. You sir, have clearly missed quite a few of those.
Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett said
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r0cketscientist said
Brother McGregor,
What next? “My favorite color is yellow and if you don’t like yellow than you are a…”?
It is one thing to disagree with the opinions of someone else, but to have such a childish – no, children are more open minded than that – rather, bigoted approach to people with different beliefs is just sad. I feel saddened by this article and the responses of people that support it. We all have to live together until we die. We should make the best of it.
Challenge your beliefs. If you do and they are still rational, then great you have made progress. If you do and they are not rational, then consider discarding them. My father-in-law believed for many years that if he put wet towels in the hamper that they would catch on fire. Seems funny doesn’t it? It turned out that it wasn’t until many years after he had his first kids that he found out that a fire would not occur. Why the belief that wet towels would cause a fire? It turns out his mother told him that to keep him from putting wet towels in the hamper when he was a kid. He never questioned what she said and for thirty years or so he thought it was true (until his children questioned and disproved it).
I have to suspect now that the moderate Christians allow for Christian fundamentalism to occur. I believe Sam Harris’ book The End of Faith correctly predicts the vehicle that Christian fundamentalism uses to exist – the innocent and mostly good “golden rule” moderate Christians.
r0cketscientist said
Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett,
Wear your “C” shirt with pride and enjoy right to freedom of religion granted to you by our U.S. Constitution. In order for your religious rights to be protected, we all need to uphold the separation of church and state to assure that we do not end up a theocracy like Iran. Don’t allow government to decided your religion. Get involved and support the freedom from religion foundation.
I love this country. Proud to be an American Atheist.
Brother McGregor said
Think of all the royalties one could gain from the misuse of the letters Mrs Gaines Crockett has seen fit to copyright.
They would indeed swell the coffers used for support of Sam Broadback.
Fortunately there is no greed here.
rocketscientist: You are not challenging my beliefs at all. Do not presume to even go there. Calling you a daft bint may indeed have been UnChristian and for that I am sorry…my apology of course…doesn’t change the fact either.
The thing you non Christians fail to understand is that we have heard all this gobbledegook before.
Yes some things do not add up in the Bible-it is a series of Many Books. Each author lived in a different time, they did not consolidate with each other to get “their facts straight”. They paid witness to the histories as they understood them.
The thing that amazes me though…is despite the inconsistencies…is that the total Book comes together more often than IT falls apart.
YIC
r0cketscientist said
Brother McGregor,
The point I tried to make in my last post is that challenging ones own beliefs is a healthy way to explore oneself spiritually. Previously I challenged you and MTDGC to provide any observable evidence that the hell I am going to exists. The hell challenge was more for my own satisfaction since this cannot be proven. However, I think that challenging your own beliefs is very rewarding. I do it on a daily basis.
I want you to understand that I do not look at the bible as a piece of useless text. It has some very good and useful lessons in it. The biggest problem with the interpretation of the bible by many people, I think, is the mistake to interpret the majority of it literally. There is no doubt in my mind that “..love thy neighbor as thy self” is something that can be used literally today. It tells you to have compassion for other people. However, there are a lot of verses in Leviticus that do not belong in a civilized society. In the same book you have instructions to commit child abuse:
“For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood [shall be] upon him.”
Now consider the old testament – the Jewish writings that set the foundation for their own people thousands of years ago. Both quotes above apply to that time. Of course they are instructed to love their neighbors. They can’t unite if they fight amongst each other. Maybe it was OK to kill your kids if they mouthed off back then. I don’t really know, but this is just one example of how religions need to adapt to changing times. Until this happens (read Sins of the Scripture by Spong) we will still have people taking the writings literally and fundamentalism will continue. This is why we need to critically evaluate what we believe and why.
Peace.
Brother McGregor said
But rocketscientist, you are assuming that I haven’t challenged this myself. I wasn’t always a Baptist…
there have been many things that i have struggled with and eventually I just threw up my hands and said “I don’t understand any of this!”
Then the small voice bade me reread and reread…The Bible is not a Book one reads once twice…three or four times…It is a Book meant to be dissected so the truth comes out.
Challenge and Challenge again is probably the characteristics of any good Baptist. In a world where “science” tells us one thing and constantly pushes at the tenets of belief, it is probably the Baptist who holds more fervent to his faith than any other.
We are not stone age people scared of the lightning…
There are inconsistencies and more interpretations abound than I know what to do with.
And I am an educated man, and I believe.
ophalia said
You can be christian and UU at the same time *points to self*
why hold onto something so fervently when it’s obviously so flawed
Talk Back Censor said
Jews have rejected Jesus Christ so are as hell-bound as Muslims and other non-Christians.
Jews WERE God’s chosen people UNTIL they rejected Jesus and murdered him.
Brother McGregor said
Ophelia what you say makes no sense at all. If you are a Christian then you believe in the Bible… You cannot be one without it.
Brother Yancy said
Dear Talk Back
Technically you are correct, but I find it much nicer to say that the Jews lived “Under the Law” before Christ. Jesus came to free them of the Law and many of them chose this Freedom. Praise God! But some rejected Freedom and elected to be bound TO the Law. For this we daily pray for them. Of bless his Holy Name.
Greater concerns are the JCM (Jewish COntrolled Media) and the Jewish doctors who forced circumcision (Mutilation of infants) on America so that it would be harder to tell Jew from Gentile, should anyone here organize themselves the way the German people did when they flocked to Mr. Hitler in 1933 and elected him in a lanslide vote.
YIC
Brother Yancy
KC said
Your adoration for Hitler, an atheist, is remarkable (and quite disgusting) and reminds me of how fundamental muslims refer to him and the words in the arabic language that have sprouted from his name. Can we see then that N in the christian alphabet will stand for “Proud to be a Nazi” and H for “Hitler did Gods will?” (if so, I want my share of the royalties
)
r0cketscientist said
Brother McGregor,
So you have challenged and challenged again and still object to homosexuality, sodomy, atheism, and revert to name calling in response to people? I read more of your previous posts and in one you liken someones typing style to a pedophile. You may have challenged your beliefs and been educated, but why is it OK to pick apart someone for their sexual preference or whether or not they engage in sodomy (unless you meant Sodomite – “someone from Sodom”, but regardless)?
I don’t understand why it is important to tell people that don’t practice your religion or live a lifestyle that is not condoned by your religion that they are going to hell, that they deserve to be labeled as something or worse yet, that they deserve to die. Jesus accepted all people. He helped the sick and less able people according to the bible. Why is it OK to not accept everyone? Isn’t that up to God to judge? By insulting, rejecting or being mean to certain people, isn’t that passing judgment? Why is it OK for so much bigotry to exist within a religion that should be about compassion?
It is the absolutism of some of your (and others) comments that tells me thinking has stopped and indoctrination prevails. Please explain if I am wrong.
ophalia said
I do believe in the bible. UU’s don’t reject the bible. No idea what you’re blathering on about concerning the subject
r0cketscientist said
ophalia,
When you said “why hold onto something so fervently when it’s obviously so flawed” that came across to me as referring to the bible. Care to expand on what you intended?
ophalia said
literal view of the bible, yes.
It was my response to his comment aout science, in reality
Brother Yancy said
Dear Ophalia
I would like to ask you a favor.
As you may be aware from some of my previous posts, I have care of my mother who is sonewhat spry despite her 80 years of age. She is an ardent supporter of Senator Brownback, having sent him the statutory limit (oh hateful Russell Feingold!) of $2300 and given me, as an advance against my inheritance, $2300, which i sent to the Sentaor with pride and joy in my heart. Anyway, I read Mother many of these posts and she enjoys them tremendously. She has always enjoyed young people, as she taught High School English here for many many years.
When I have read your posts to Mother she has said, “Does she mean Ophelia? As in, Hamlet’s girlfriend?” I told her I didn’t think so and that perhaps there was some African derivation. I promised her I would ask you. Many Thanks!
YIC
Brother Yancy
Jaque said
Just an FYI for everyone, an atheist isn’t someone who hates deity’s, the just don’t believe they exist.
Stop being such ***UNChristian Word Removed*** and get your vocabularies straight <3
Aaron said
Wow, religious people are really ***UNChristian Word Removed*** ***UNChristian Word Removed*** holes. They are filled with so much hate, and think that everyone should believe in their God. Who is to say they are right? Why are atheists bad? In fact the prision population is 75% christians and .02% atheists. The smarter you are the more likely you are to be atheists (proven fact by studies). I think most people that agree with htis are incested hill-billies, and deserve to have their rights, just not enforce them on us. If we get marked then so should they with 666 on them.
Atheists/agnostics/non-believers are on the rise. Worldwide there are 1.1 billion of them. America is a very unintelligent country and I feel horrible living here. I also feel horrible that religious people think this way, that they have so much hate and dissrespect. They also have no minds what-so-ever, I’m sure their income is 50 grand a year (most of them live in trailers). If there were a God then why are you guys so damn poor and have horrible lives? Atheists are not bad people and you guys are too ***UNChristian Word Removed*** stupid to see that.
Why must you guys attack us on this life? Can’t you be happy knowing we’re going to hell?
Aaron said
“Today, in an America filled with adulterers and baby-killers, an even worse sinner casts a shadow over them all—the atheist.”
Uh…Yeah there is not a single piece of evidence in history to back this up, in fact the prision population is only .02% atheists like I said before, in America. How are they worse? I mean seriously atheists can’t kill for their religion, because they don’t have one. They can’t suicide bomb you for Allah and 72 virgins, nor can they drive a plane into a building (it’s never happened and will most likely never will, only Muslims have done this). Christians kill, muslims kill, all religions kill for religion. Pol-pot, and stalin were indeed atheists but didn’t kill for “atheism”. Atheists do do crimes (nobody is perfect), they just do a lot less.
infinitum17 said
I am proud to wear my scarlet letter A of atheism. It’s advertising my beliefs, plain and simple, much the same as wearing a cross around one’s neck.
It saddens me to see atheists described as hateful by the author of this post, especially when the post itself is so full of hate. Can you not see the hate you are spouting?
We’re not bad people. We love our neighbors, give to charity, and help our communities much in the same way as religious people do. We just have a difference of opinion. I’m sorry that you have such a mistaken impression about us. I wish that you and I could sit down and talk, or that you and any atheist could sit down and talk, so you could see that we’re not bad people at all.
Lynelle Bryant - USE Ministry Leader said
No one hates you, infinitum17, we hate your sin because God commands it. Come to know the Lord Jesus Christ while you still have the chance.
God Bless!
Lynelle
interpreted said
Uh…Yeah there is not a single piece of evidence in history to back this up, in fact the prision population is only .02% atheists like I said before, in America. How are they worse? I mean seriously atheists can’t kill for their religion, because they don’t have one. They can’t suicide bomb you for Allah and 72 virgins, nor can they drive a plane into a building (it’s never happened and will most likely never will, only Muslims have done this). Christians kill, muslims kill, all religions kill for religion. Pol-pot, and stalin were indeed atheists but didn’t kill for “atheism”. Atheists do do crimes (nobody is perfect), they just do a lot less.
Not quite true – if it wasn’t for religion, people who wanted to kill would just cite ‘honour’, ‘the purity of the race’, or something like that.
Aaron said
“Not quite true – if it wasn’t for religion, people who wanted to kill would just cite ‘honour’, ‘the purity of the race’, or something like that. ”
The killings would be a lot less in this case. Do you see many people killing for ‘The purity of the race’? No but it does happen wordwide as we speak, and if you minus religion it would be the same number just less suicide bombings.
“No one hates you, infinitum17, we hate your sin because God commands it. Come to know the Lord Jesus Christ while you still have the chance.
God Bless!
Lynelle”
To hate what we do is to hate us. Why do you insist on converting us? Just be happy we are rotting in hell. Don’t make my life a living hell on earth, we only have one life and it is very important, I don’t want to have to wear an “A” and get disgusted look around every corner in christian-land.
Miss Mabel Gargula said
Mr. Aaron wrote: “Uh…Yeah there is not a single piece of evidence in history to back this up, in fact the prision population is only .02% atheists like I said before, in America. How are they worse?”
Well, duh, silly! Haven’t you heard the saying that there are no atheists in foxholes or prison?! That’s because you all are a bunch of nancy boys.
God bless!
Aaron said
Hahaha, no we are smart and stay out of trouble. If not killing, raping, stealing, robbing, molesting, and countless other acts makes me a nancy boy, then I sure love being a nancy boy!
ophalia said
Ophalia is my character on world of warcraft. Ophelia was taken
r0cketscientist said
I have read about quite a few atheist statistics regarding crime, divorce rates, pro bono publico doctor practices and things like that, and they all show that atheists have better percentages than the people they are being compared to. These figures came from secular sources with the exception of the divorce rate study, which was done by a Christian organization. I have to consider all of these numbers with some skepticism because I have not independently verified the studies.
But it would not surprise me if they were true because a lot of atheists consider themselves humanist and consider the wellbeing of all people to be more important than putting faith into a god. To me, this creates less “baggage” when making decisions. A humanist can simply act upon the golden rule (read Immanuel Kant’s Critique of Pure Reason) and support the elimination of legal, social and cultural practices that infringe on peoples rights as humans.
I think the biggest issue right now with organized religion is when people are moved to take away rights from the individual – victim-less crimes. Examples of this abortion, suicide and homosexuality.
An example of the government doing this is the banning of certain natural growing plants (i.e. cannabis sativa or weed) because government decided that it was not OK for the individual to put it into their body simply for the reason they feared the Mexican immigrants that were doing it and unscientifically associated the plant as the cause of crime.
Anyhow, enjoy your rights to have your own religious beliefs in this country. But don’t violate other peoples rights because you think you know what is best for them (this applies to atheists as well).
Aaron said
I understand what you are saying Rocket, but I think that the majority of people in christianity, catholism, and the muslims don’t deserve respect. Muslims kill their daughters because they got rapped and it’s a sin to have sex before marriage (that’s crazy). Or they suicide bomb because they think they’re going to virgins (not all believe in suicide bombing, but atheists definetally don’t).
I don’t see why the secualrists groups would cherry-pick or have reasons to lie about the atheists statistics. I believe them, even thought they may vary.
r0cketscientist said
Aaron,
I carefully worded my response and did not say that I respect religious beliefs, but I do respect the right of people to have their own beliefs and my right to have an opinion about them. I agree with Dawkins that the only beliefs worth respecting are the ones that are backed by evidence and am skeptical of the ones that don’t seem rational.
There is a motivation to lie if one wants to unfairly make a religion look bad. We are a self-auditing bunch because we are comprised of skeptics and freethinkers. And we would probably be the first to say that something wasn’t right if it appeared so. However, just because someone is atheist doesn’t mean they are fair and just. It wouldn’t surprise me if a small percentages of atheists acted criminally against churches (vandalism, looting, etc), but I don’t have any evidence of this (I haven’t looked into it) and it would be very sad if that happened.
Peace.
Aaron said
Yes I am sure there are some of them as well, they are being hypocritical, but I guess after being killed for thousands of years these are just minor paybacks, but unecessary at that. You would be suprised at the low number of crimes that non-religious do, and high the religious crime is. I also agree with Dawkins on that 100%, he is a very intelligent man. I seen a show of him talking saying that religious don’t really know who we are, and the head of American Atheists disagreed, but he is right. They think that we worship the devil (even though he is in their bible), and they think we are worse than child molestors, killers, rapists, ect. They are brainwashed and filled with hate.
Brother Yancy said
Ophalia
The Word of Warcraft = Satan’s Tool to destroy the Minds of American Youth!
Lord, please deliver Ophalia from this sinful practice of gaming, as she is casting lots she also falls deeper and deeper into demonic influence.
Miss, I certainly can’t tell Mother this! I will say it is African in nature. Better to have the Curse of Ham, which is an accident of birth, than be steeped in the iniquities of WOW.
YIC
Brother Yancy
Brother Yancy said
Dirty Athiest
I see you are back from the shower. Did you stow your shower shoes and gear correctly afterward? Your kind rarely does. I knew your type in the Navy, but I also ministered to them and many of them came to know love in the Lord. Glory!
I hope you thought about Eternity in there Mister and rebuked yourself hard.
We are praying for you.
YIC
Brother Yancy
r0cketscientist said
Aaron,
How did you find this blog or do you frequent Baptist blogs? I was searching for an atheism bracelet and happened upon it. I couldn’t help speaking on such a bigoted article.
I suspect that over time Christianity, Judaism, Islam and most other religions will fall into the category of mythology much like Roman and Greek mythology were once religions. What say you?
ophalia said
please, wow satan’s tool? give me a break. destroying my mind? ok, whatever. meeting new people and having fun, mhm, obviously satan.
ophalia said
oh, and tell her it’s wow. tell her it’s fun. and tell her it opens the imagination just as well as books, which I read more than I play video games
Aaron said
Well brother Yancy that was rude of you to say. I love hoe religious can only attack not defend, because they have no facts or evidence, they have blind faith. I too have talked to religious people and turned them into atheists
That’s a great accomplishment for me and I won’t stop.
Without a doubt in my mind these religious will go into the mythology corner in the library, it is in my mind.
Brother McGregor said
sure would like to see some of these sites/Books that you have all been getting your statistics from….
put up or shut up, i believe the vernacular is.
Brother McGregor said
No one murders for purity of race? LOL I can bet a bunch of nazis would have loved you as a judge at the Nuremberg trials for war crimes. Aaron…You state this and you state that and half your statements are so asinine that I am beginning to think you are a “s a t i r e” of an atheist.
the divine mosh said
coming from a cristian bacground this mkes ms wounder why i was ever chistion in the first place. aparently you are SOUTHERN BABTST
Brother McGregor said
Apparently…and apparently you retired from school when you graduated grade one?
YIC
“Yurs” in Christ
:) said
this whole site is a p-s-r-o-d-t, or p, s, r, o, d, t, only put together.
r0cketscientist said
Brother McGregor,
I will attempt to post this link, but you have seen how censorship goes around here:
Atheist divorce rates lower, conservative Christian divorce rates higher than average according to a study done by Barna Research Group.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm
Plenty of other studies like this exist. The scientific (creditable) sources show that the above is true. Faith-based numbers with no research show the opposite – most likely used as a sales tactic for the religion. A quote from the article:
The slogan: “The family that prays together, stays together” is well known. There has been much anecdotal evidence that has led to “unsubstantiated claims that the divorce rate for Christians who attended church regularly, pray together or who meet other conditions is only 1 or 2 percent”. 8 Emphasis ours]. Dr. Tom Ellis, chairman of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Council on the Family said that for “…born-again Christian couples who marry…in the church after having received premarital counseling…and attend church regularly and pray daily together…” experience only 1 divorce out of nearly 39,000 marriages — or 0.00256 percent. 9
A recent study by the Barna Research Group throws extreme doubt on these estimates. Barna released the results of their poll about divorce on 1999-DEC-21. 1 They had interviewed 3,854 adults from the 48 contiguous states. The margin of error is ±2 percentage points. The survey found:
bullet 11% of the adult population is currently divorced.
bullet 25% of adults have had at least one divorce during their lifetime.
bullet Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significantly higher than for other faith groups, and much higher than Atheists and Agnostics experience.
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WhoDat said
Of COURSE atheist divorce rates are lower, they are all the gay, or to busy whoring about to settle down with one person in a proper Christian (republican baptist) marriage, so they can’t get divorced.
You silly goose.
Praise Be.
ophalia said
uhm, no. that’s one of the most ignorant comments I’ve ever heard
Brother McGregor said
Exactly Whodat or just living together in Godless sin. The fact remains that no serious study on crime stats exist despite rocketscientist link. I googled the very same last night. I found a lot of “theories” and “presumptions” but nothing that clearly showed that atheists were “just the nicest darn people”.
Re: Stats, as with most things…it is automatically assumed that you belong to a religion at birth. Right on the wee medical band around the ankle of a tiny bonny babe. Now perhaps people denounce this throughout life but their religious birthright still follows them.
Obviously “Christian” people who divorce or commit adultry or murders are not true Christian…and a “non true Christian-or NTC” is as bad as an atheist. One and the same, I’d even say.
Perhaps we ought to have a blog on the difference of TRUE CHRISTIANS (REPUBLICAN BAPTISTS) verses non true christians-all the other mongrel cults.
Brother McGregor said
If fact if i can permit myself a small vanity, I think this idea is so good that I am going to post it in the member’s area for consideration.
WhoDat said
Ophalia lamb,
You are soooo right. That rocketscientist guys comments were in fact terribly ignorant, but it isn’t terribly christian of you to point out his obvious deficiencies.
God Bless.
Brother McGregor said
Too true Brother Whodat, it just doesn’t sound as repressive when we say it as we are cloaked in His Love and Grace.
I think it was high time we explained the difference between us and the other so called “christians”.
Too many come in here and start with
“as a christian (invariably spelt lower case) I blah blah blah…”
I just want to hurl them out of here sometimes.
I need to rebuke myself for my minor sin of righteous aggression.
ophalia said
actually, whodat, I was talking about you. rates having nohting to do with numbers, but ratios.
isn’t terribly christian of you to make such comments about people you don’t know
Brother McGregor said
Ophalia since you do not know Brother Whodat….one might rebuke you for throwing stones as well….
YIC
r0cketscientist said
WhoDat,
Your argument is flawed. In order for one to get divorced, one has to be married. This would limit the surveyed population to “presently or previously divorced atheists” divided by “presently or previously married atheists” (considering spouses that have died, not divorced). Your argument means nothing in regards to this statistic. Personally, I don’t care about the statistics. They probably appear due to religious people making up statistics designed to make atheists look bad.
Two people have tied being a true Baptist to being in the republican party. You are diluted to think that the republican party has your religious interests in hand. Religion is the politician’s/ruler’s way of controlling the masses. Christianity has been used for this purpose for the past 1800 years or so. Thank you Constantine I, the (not so) great. Want another example? Pick a country in the middle east.
WhoDat said
Blessed RocketHeathen,
Are you sure that I am wrong, or as you put it so eloquently ‘diluted’? That would be terribly disappointing, though not nearly as discouraging as it would be if I were deluded.
Praise Be. And welcome new friend.
r0cketscientist said
Brother McGregor,
Are you implying that the statistics used to identify one’s religion came from what religion they were born into rather than the one they are currently practicing? If you are interested in more details about how the data was collected, it is available if you look for it.
Looks like Baptists have the second highest divorce rate among Christians.
Also:
Variation in divorce rates by religion:
Religion % have been divorced
Jews 30%
Born-again Christians 27%
Other Christians 24%
Atheists, Agnostics 21%
Ron Barrier, Spokespersonn for American Atheists remarked on these findings with some rather caustic comments against organized religion. He said:
“These findings confirm what I have been saying these last five years. Since Atheist ethics are of a higher caliber than religious morals, it stands to reason that our families would be dedicated more to each other than to some invisible monitor in the sky. With Atheism, women and men are equally responsible for a healthy marriage. There is no room in Atheist ethics for the type of ’submissive’ nonsense preached by Baptists and other Christian and/or Jewish groups. Atheists reject, and rightly so, the primitive patriarchal attitudes so prevalent in many religions with respect to marriage.” 2
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Proud member of American Atheists.
r0cketscientist said
WhoDat,
Thine mind thinketh one word and thine fingers typeth another. You must be commended on avoiding the rational discussion and reverting to niggling.
ophalia said
Jesus said he who is without sin can cast the first stone, but he never touched on who throws the second
Brother McGregor said
Speaking of Atheists, last fall I attended a church wedding between two atheists. At the time the irony of that situation was lost on me. Just as well, the bride was also in white.
WhoDat said
Brother mcG,
Two atheists were married? And in a CHURCH no less? Lord, I am surprised they didn’t burst into flames when they walked through the door.
Praise!
J.L. Jameson said
Hi Tobin,
Who needs a time machine when ludicrous suggestions such as yours can instantly transport us back into the dark ages?
I wanted to congratulate you for being another Christian who gives Jesus one more reason to change his last name.
If you want to actually back up your suggestion in a debate, see you at nonConforums.com.
Pastor Tobin Maker D.D said
J.L. Jameson,
You had your opportunity to make some kind of argument against my reasoned and level-headed suggestion, but all you could offer were snide words and superior airs.
You’ll find out how much better than we true Christians you atheists are when satan is debating you with a red hot poker.
In Christ’s love.
J.L. Jameson said
Hi Tobin,
Thanks for the prompt response.
I and many others definately do not think that your suggestions are level-headed nor reasonable. Believe it or not, baby killers and Atheists aren’t the only ones who agree with me. I do not see how you could expect any less of a response from human beings when you make such ludicrous suggestions as branding others.
The 2nd part of the greatest commandment is to love others. So here’s your chance to back up how labeling others is loving. I even made you your own thread to do this: http://www.nonconforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=300#300
By the way, you may not want to be so quick to judge, as I’m a Christian too. Of course, you just labeled me and didn’t bother asking did you?
James
Pastor Tobin Maker D.D said
J.L Jamison,
You call yourself a Christian? Well, isn’t that precious. My Uncle Skeeter thought he was the king of Belarus.
In Christ’s Name.
Lazarus said
And you call yourself a Christian, tobin?
Uncle Skeeter said
Hey, leave me out of this.
we need a mod in here said
JJ time travel hmmmm? Google John Titor…a very unwell man but very interesting to read.
All you science types should enjoy it.
Brother McGregor said
ack that was me…
Sorry
chase said
you should be compared to ever other human who has tried to segregate human beings and put himself and others that believe like him on a pedestal. i am almost speechless right now as to the ignorance and the absolute disregard for teaching’s of Jesus coming out of this so called christians mouth. i honestly dont even know what to say. dose anyone have this guys e-mail i would love to write him a letter.
J.L. Jameson said
Well, i have to say, you guys (the website) really went out of your way to *** inappropriate material removed****.
Ok, now that you have denied it. How about some proof? What’s name(s) of the Churches that you pastor? And how about *** inappropriate material removed****? Are you registered with the SBC? If so, don’t mind if i give them a call to verify? Where’d you go to seminary to get your credentials?
*** inappropriate material removed**** I really hope you get a bunch of gold stars for your fine efforts, as you’ve definately earned them.
I guess the real joke is on the people who supported your outlandish branding suggestions.
Take Care
r0cketscientist said
J.L. Jameson,
There has been some information about this blog and entire site being a psrodt. WordPress claims that it is a psrodt. The founder of b4b2008 claims it isn’t.
I see he hasn’t taken up your invitation to discuss the topic on your forum. This whole site and the “Baptists” on it are starting to look more and more like ***UNChrisitan Word Removed*** to me.
r0cketscientist said
Another interesting Baptist site. I don’t know if this one is a psrodt either.
***UNChristian Link Removed***
Aaron said
Hahaha It says “UNChristian Word Removed” Well I sure know that they love to “UNChristian Word Removed” little boys, ask any preist.
Mod. Note: Final warning. You will be banned from posting in addition to being reported to your IP service provider and all proper authorities.
r0cketscientist said
Pastor Tobin Maker D.D,
Do you have a web site that is not related to b4b2008 that might give you an ounce of credibility. Searching Google yields only posts to blogs and forums. My favorite quote from Tobin Maker:
“Your gonads and lust wand belong to Jesus.”
http://ezraklein.typepad.com/blog/2005/02/state_church_ab.html
My favorite quote from a shirt in response to that:
“Jesus is coming. Are you swallowing that?”
r0cketscientist said
Dear Mod,
“Mod. Note: Final warning. You will be banned from posting in addition to being reported to your IP service provider and all proper authorities.”
For what? Speaking his mind? I don’t doubt that you would ban Aaron’s IP address from your site, but what has he done criminally? He has only stated his opinion and some facts. This isn’t libel or harassment. To me it appears that you are trying to threaten him.
r0cketscientist said
Aaron,
I haven’t heard that about molestation cases involving Baptists or Christians in general – just in Catholicism. Have you found something different?
Aaron said
I wouldn’t doubt it r0cketsceintist, this country is mainly christians, they have reasons to hide it. The catholics are mainly mexicans and hispanics, and these christians hate mexicans, so they want to reveal the catholic molestors more than the christian ones.
ophalia said
Where are you getting those statistics, Aaron?
Brother Yancy said
ophalia
Aaron was a filthy atheist who reject my advice on proper personal hygenic care. Naturally as an agent of Satan, he is a liar and a deceiver.
2 John 1:7: “Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.”
YIC
Brother Yancy
Brother McGregor said
Brother Whodat, wasn’t Aaron the one with scabs? So many have come in lately with unhealthy genitalia.
I have assisted where I could but certainly this is not a hygenic blog.
YIC
Good Evening Pastor Maker, I trust you are Well in the Lord this evening?
YIC
Geoff said
I’d wear my A with pride.
ophalia said
Yancy: No, no, no, no. Unless you’ve met someone in real life I can’t say that you have the right to make comments about their personal hygine. YOU’RE the deciever, and you’ve been decieved. It’s terrible when evil corrupts someone like you because you ned up doing more harm than good.
Tobin: Gonads and lust wand? And atheists are the dirty ones? Puh-lease.
Mcgregor: Why are you and so many others so stuck on the status of another person’s genitals. What’s sad is that Aaron’s most likely a man, and you and others are discussing his member quite intently
Brother McGregor said
Actually Ophalia the genitals in question have been discussed by the owners in question.
I have merely offered some sound remedies-such as oatmeal bathes etc. If the problem was intent I would suggest medical assistance. I think I have mentioned that this is not a hygene blog.
I can hardly call my comments “intently discussing”. These folks have come in with some of the rude comments regarding “attachments”. Rather than run and hide and be shocked I have merely countered with common sense.
It is you that seems to think that one comment made by me is “intent”
I hardly think so.
Dave Child said
This is easily one of the best pieces of comedy writing I’ve read in ages.
I hope.
Pastor Tobin Maker D.D said
Dave Child,
You’ll see how much you enjoy “comedy writing” when Jesus reads you the riot act on Judgment Day.
I only pray that you change your ways by then, instead of laughing at honest attempts to save you.
In Christ’s Name.
J.L. Jameson said
Tobin,
I’m waiting over here on my forums waiting to talk to you about this stuff, but you aren’t showing? You are starting to hurt my feelings.
Here’s the link again: http://www.nonconforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=300#300
Oh, by the way, what’s the contact # for your organization? The Souther Baptist Convention folks want to give you a ring.
ophalia said
so let me get this straight: An atheist is stupidand corrupt enough to lie about everyhting….except their genitalia?
r0cketscientist said
I will never lie about my genitalia. Go ahead, ask away.
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ophalia said
I continue to pray for those of you who are delusional and so full of hate…for everyone who’s not your terrible definition of christian
bie said
I don’t think putting any letter to a man’s clothing will make any difference… We people are already judgmental in nature. We tend to criticize even the smallest mistake of others. We always see what others do, especially those that for us is wrong. But how do we really differentiate right from wrong? Only God knows what is wrong and what is right, not the society. The people have no right to criticize anyone. Our duty is to do what God has told us to do – we have to love one another.
On the days that you catch yourself criticizing others, stop for a while and see what you’ve done. Think what others think of you. You might feel what the person you’ve criticized felt… maybe next time, you’ll react differently.
Brother Yancy said
Opahalia
Go back to Africa. You are not needed here.
YIC
BY
Brother Yancy said
bie
(what is that, cheese?)
Either you are a simpleton or a woman. God sees what you do minute by minute and once you croak he can’t wait to throw you into the Lake of Fire! You don’t have all these days you talk about to think and act “differently”. Jesus is in Heaven with a giant abacus, cackling at this very moment over how many centuries your behind will spend at the pleasure of Beelzebub’s giant black pitchfork! Forewarned is forearmed. Get right with GOD!
PRAISE THE LORD!
YIC
Brother Yancy
ophalia said
Hun, I’m white, 100% white. would you like a picture and my family tree?
and I’m glad to be a woman, at least I don’t have to claim you as a fellow man
ophalia said
but if you’d like me to go back to my “home” country I’ll let you pic, germany, england, ireland, france, spain, netherlands, wales, scotland? I use the palest makeup the store has and I have bright blues eyes.
Africa, peh, you’re sad
Isaac said
Oh what the crap! I do agree that America has become a terribly morally corrupt nation, and that to be an atheist you have to overlook many things, to the point it’s more like ignoring a creator than believeing there is none. But nonetheless, we shouldn’t be marking them with something because of their beliefs, nor anything else. We have no right to judge anyone! Romans 3:23 “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” We are just as bad as atheists. I don’t give a crap who you are, we all deserve to burn in the pits of hell and face God’s wrath for all eternity. But “For God so loved the world, that he sent his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16) It’s by the grace of God that we are saved from his wrath. I’m sorry Yancy, but you must be serving a different Jesus than I’m serving, because my Jesus loves everyone, and desires that none should go to hell. But he’s also just, and can’t allow sin into heaven, unless it is atoned for. And believe me, all of you, if you don’t love your “brother”, then you are no more Christian than the homosexual heroin addict down the street. (1 John 2:9-11 “Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness. Whoever loves his brother lives in the light, and there is nothing to make him stumble. But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness; he does not know where h is going, because the darkness has blinded him.”) Instead of going and avoiding atheists and other sinners who haven’t been cleansed by the Blood of Jesus, we need to go out and evangilize! Preach the gospel constantly! And better yet, start looking at ourselves and making sure that we’re in the light, before telling anyone else that they are in darkness. This really disappointed me, and how some people are AGREEING with it! I think some of you need to go take a look at how Jesus lived and try to follow his example.
Brother Mcgregor said
Issac
No one here hates sodomites…we hate the sin.
I thought that was clear…
You forgot one pertinent scripture
Jesus knew the Law as well as you or me and better. He knows that Deuteronomy 17 says, the witnesses who catch them are to do the stoning. And who wants to cast the first stone under the qualification that Jesus laid down, let him who has no sin cast the first stone.
Jesus with this one statement changes the whole issue. The issue NOW, is not whether the woman should be stoned for her sin, but whether or not they have the right to stone her, in the mist of their sins. At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there.
So in essence what you are saying is correct…those without sin are entitled…since no one was left except the woman and Jesus.
Then He turns to her (This bit gets forgotten over and over again by the “ye who are without sin, cast the first stone” crowd)
and He says
JOHN 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more
Sodomites and idol worshippers and other blasphemes have to stop what they are doing and stop it now!
Isaac said
I wasn’t talking to everyone. But some of the replies I saw were completely agreeing with the article. How do you show love to someone by marking them as an “undesirable”? Then what really fired me up was Yancy talking of Jesus as if Jesus enjoys punishing people and laughs because of their suffering. I’m sorry, I did somewhat overexaggerate, but I was really irritated by that. And I have to agree they do need to stop what they’re doing. I agree with that 100 %. If they don’t they will face God’s judgement, but we’re called to preach the gospel, not mark those who don’t believe right off and avoid them. I’m just putting in my opinions, not trying to judge
, Oh and while I’m posting this I hope nobody minds if I ask for prayer. After I typed that yesterday I got on my trampoline and blew out my knee. Thanks 
.
Brother Mcgregor said
Well in this context i believe the marking of the person with a letter is someone who absolutely refuses to change their behaviour.
If on hearing the word as clearly as possible…perhaps several times over and it is still rejected then we are bade not to deal with these people.
We are not allowed to talk or be with these people.
If you said to me, “I don’t believe”
you would not be labelled with any darn letter. I’d try to help you to see the light.
If after several attempts to help you and you still refused His word then, as sad as that might make me, I would have to reject any friendship with you.
I know Mrs Gaines Crockett is not suggesting that we throw out scarlet letters willynilly here and fro. I know she doesn’t plan on dropping them from a dirigible and they laid where they do.
This would be an application after the person refused to be saved or change their evil ways.
The authority for stopping us from further council is God.
ryan said
That’s a great idea and Richard Dawkins has done it. Atheists be proud!
You christians are so pathetic, I’m embarassed to be in the same species as you.
Pastor Tobin Maker D.D said
Ryan,
according to your precious Richard Dawkins, you aren’t of my species. My ancestors were Mr Adam and his foolish wife Eve. Your ancestors were Bonzo and Dr Cornelius.
In Christ’s Name.
ophalia said
thanks for proving how much you know, tobin
dirk gently said
That is a beautifully written piece, which I agree with completely. Not only should the atheists be marked, so should the Liberals with a huge L, which can stand for Loser or Liberal, the definition is the same.
ah. now i see how Los Angeles got its nickname.
and i may have learned something new about AL gore.
Proud Atheist Liberal said
You know what, I would wear the letter and be glad to not have you ***UnChristian Word Removed*** anywhere near me. I really wish this country was actually the christian nation you claim it to be. If it were then maybe the government would subsidize my move to a more tolerant country. But being that we are a country with a christian majority, and not a christian nation, all are welcomed and accepted(at least by the kind and decent among us, something many of you are proving to be anything but).
Please don’t hit me with the stupid argument of one nation under god or in god we trust being on the money. Both were added long after the founding fathers had died. I scratch In god we trust off of every bill I get with a silver marker so it cannot be seen (as I feel that the practice of placing in god we trust on legal tender is against the law, and no it isn’t against the law for me to remove it, it is only illegal if I were to alter or replace the slogan). Since the pledge was changed in 1954 to incorporate your imaginary friend, that should be proof enough that the founding fathers had no intention of including it in the first place. Not that the founding fathers had a hand in the writing of the pledge, but it was actually written by a baptist minister and the original version did not include god. Secondly it was the Knights of Columbus (boy there is a great man to name your organization after, a cruel slave trader who cut off the hands of native people for not reaching their quota of gold in an area not rich in gold at all, but hey that’s the church for ya, sweep all the unpleasant parts of history under the rug and they never happened)
Anyway, I can’t wait for this country to follow the lead of its European counterparts and become far more atheistic. At least then we won’t be the laughing stock of the civilized world for having a majority that thinks the world is about 6000 years old and dinosaurs and man coexisted.
***UnChristian Word Removed***
crash7997
aka neosapien
Zhavric said
Good to see ***UnChristian Word Removed*** is alive and well in the hearts and minds of the political right wing whack jobs calling themselves Christians. You guys are ***UnChristian Word Removed***, right? Nothing you said ***UnChristian Word Removed***.
WhoDat said
Heavens to Betsy Zharvic,
You have quite the mouth on you. Didn’t your mother ever rebuke you properly, upside the noodle with a bible?
With all the sinners creeping all over this place today/tonight I will be deep in prayer for you all into the wee hours. Gonna make for a long day tomorrow.
Praise the Lord!
ophalia said
quite the mouth? unchristian word removed is a joke to make omse people look “worse”
Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett said
Dear Ophalica,
Why is that you continue to harass and persecute the good people of this ministry? Are you so in love with Satan that you cannot keep your trap shut for just five minutes? I will pray for you but I honestly feel as it will fall on deaf ears as God has likely forsaken you.
ophalia said
mm, thanks, I guess. But I think that in reality it’s the exact opposite. I’m on fire for god, that’s why I’m here
Song said
The only thing I want to say is this: It is not for us to judge others. The only one worthy of judging us is God. You might remember that passage in the bible “judge not lest ye be judged”?
If there was a scarlet S for sinners…… we’d all be dressed the same.
Honestly, you sound like a pharisee. However, like I said, it’s not for me to judge you.
Proud Atheist said
gosh, looks like liberals, gays, muslims, jews, jehovah’s witnesses, masturbators, green party, and democrats aren’t the only people going to hell. lemme review a few things…
1. I belive, which has already been stated a few times, that you sound pretty much like hitler.
2. Why would one who isn’t a gay basher, jew burner, or a xenophobe for that matter be worse than a child molester or a baby killer?
3. This one goes out to Mrs. T.D. : We’re terribly sorry we’ve somehow insulted you after calling us satinists( which is funny, beacause we don’t believe in him or you precious “god”, for that matter) and people who corrupt your sweet , innocent children with “evil” talk like evolution and the fact that maybe you sun worshipers believe in an IMAGINARY SKY DADDY.
4. Is it possible that maybe being peace loving like a quaker is a good thing, that mabe native americans had a right to be violent after once they helped us settle, we attacked and killed nine tenths of their population? Or that there is no such thing as a witch and you bible thumpers killed a lot of innocent people (despite whatever you may say about them being evil, messengers of satin).
5. I’ll glady wear a scarlet A over a roman torture device (your cross) any day!
*whew* I’m glad I got all that out.
Dale said
**UnChristian Comments Removed**
You can fool ignorant christians, but you can’t fool the people at which you direct so much hatred.
godlessrant said
“the atheist. Yet atheists are difficult to spot. They hide their sinister cult behind masks of smiles, science and soft, pleasant voices. Your next door neighbor might be an atheist. You just can’t tell.”
get used to us, brainwashed cult members. we are not going away. You’d have to kill us which you’d probably like to do as your “good book” suggests. a book of violence, murder and cruelty like none other.
we are tired of your cult and your attacks on everyone who doesn’t believe in your cult or that you consider “Evil”, gay people, non chrisitans, etc
as for
“I cannot seem to post a simple thought here without persecution raining down upon me. Why is it that atheists are so full of hate? Just what is so wrong with my suggestion for an atheist “A”? Is the color scarlet the problem? Or the font? They can be changed. I’m not inflexible.”
and for all the people that christianity has killed? how about them eh? you’re a cheap thug hiding behind a bronze age cult.
Let me tell you we atheists are not going to back down, get lost or go away. We will expose your doctrine and block your theistic BS at every turn. Many of us are former christians and we know how you operate. We will not rest until your lying, fraudulent claims are put to rest and that your cult is nothing more than some entries in a history book.
godlessrant said
Atheists, secularists, skeptics and nonbelievers, take hope!
when you see hatred and anger posts like these from the followers of the cult of “christ”, you know they are scared. They are scared of losing people away from their evil cult. Their “hell”, their threats of their imagined god have no power over us. We know that their cult exists only for power over the minds of people, their wallets and their lives. With each passing day, science proves that their primitive era claims are the product of early minds.
Mod Note: I bet you wished you had the traffic we get
mike said
Pastor Tobin says: “All who accept Christ are Saved. No exceptions.”
So, does that include someone who accepts Christ, but not creation? How about someone who accepts Christ, and accepts global warming? Votes for a Democrat? Sorry, if your religion saves people like that, I want nothing to do with it.
Pastor Tobin Maker D.D said
Mike,
You cannot believe in Christ without accepting every word of the Holy Bible (KJV 1611) as the literal truth. Global warming and evilution are anti-Christian lies, contradicted by the scientific facts contained within the Good Book.
A democrat cannot be a true Christian. It is impossible. You’re just being silly now.
In Christ’s Name.
mike said
Ok, so you “accept every word of the bible as the literal truth”? So if your son or daughter or brother were to become, for example, a Buddhist, you would murder him, as required by Deuteronomy 13:6-10? For that matter, you support murdering anyone who has worshipped another God as required by Deuteronomy 17:2-5? Or killing all homosexuals as required by Leviticus 20:13?
You can’t have it both ways. Either every word of the bible is “the literal truth” and you kill all the people as ordered by the bible, or the bible is NOT the literal truth and you don’t. How many people have you murdered in the name of God this week, pastor?
Brother Bear said
Mike
I don’t think I’ve ever seen the word “Buddhist” in my Holy King James Bible?
Are you “interpreting” the Bible? The bible is the Word, don’t go changing its meaning.
FIC
BB
mike said
And do you accept the ten commandments as “the literal truth”? Considering the fact that you bear false witness rather freely in this post and this one, I tend to assume that the answer is no.
Brother Bear said
Dear Fallen Mike,
Maybe this will help you,
Proverbs 1:5-7
“A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels. To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings. The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction. ”
I think that last line pretty much sums it up.
PRAISE JESUS!
FIC
BB
mike said
Well, I said “for example”. But that said, I take it you don’t know your bible very well. I cited chapter & verse, but since you apparently don’t know how to look it up, I’ll post it…
Deuteronomy 13:6-10:
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; 7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; 8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: 9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. [1]
Deuteronomy 17:2-5:
2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the Lord thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the Lord thy God, in transgressing his covenant, 3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel: 5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die
mike said
And both Brother Bear & Pastor Tobin, from your pictures, it looks like you cut your hair & shave your beard. Haven’t you read Leviticus 19:27, “Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.”? The pictures are small, but your haircuts looks pretty round and you both seem to have marred your beards.
Pastor Tobin Maker D.D said
Mike,
Unlike you I have a personal relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ. I’m sure He’d tell me Himself if He was unhappy with my grooming.
Stop evading the horrible fact that you have been seduced by lying evilution cult leaders like Richard Dawkins.
Why do you want to believe your ancestors copulated with chimpanzees?
mike said
Thank you. You just admitted that the bible is not the literal truth.
mike said
Why do you want to believe your ancestors copulated with chimpanzees?
Um, because they did?
Pastor Tobin Maker D.D said
Mike,
The fact is Richard Dawkins has breached my copyright by publishing my work on his site.
My lawyers are currently dealing with this issue.
I have challenged Mr Dawkins to a live debate, but he is so far too much of a coward to agree. He knows that with the power of Christ behind me I’d wipe the floor with the pansy egghead atheist.
In Christ’s Name.
mike said
Ummm…. He did it befor you did. I first heard of Dawkins campaign on July 29th, three days before your first post on the matter. You can’t retroactively copytright something. You, sir, are a liar and will likely burn “down below”.
And you never answered my question… How many people have you killed in the lords name this week? Do the police know?
Pastor Tobin Maker D.D said
Mike,
You and your perverted false idol Richard Dawkins have no power here. This site is watched over by our Savior.
Soon every atheist website will bear the scarlet “A”, just as I proposed. There’s nothing you can do to change it.
In Christ’s Name.
mike said
But you still haven’t answered the question. How many people have you killed in the lords name this week? Should I assume that the answer is none? Are you willing to ignore the Lord’s direct orders to kill all blasphemers & homosexuals, just to avoiid a little jail time? Since the Bible is “the literal truth”, you understand that you’ll burn in [that place down below] for failing to kill the blasphemers, right?
mike said
BTW, false claims of copyright ownership is a crime under the DMCA… Your lord can’t protect you from the Man…
ophalia said
nothing we can do? Other than get more on our side? Not that we need to, us normies already outnumber you
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flasher702 said
…where have I heard this idea before?
Pastor Tobin Maker D.D said
flasher702,
Perhaps Jesus spoke to you of my suggestion.
Praise!
ophalia said
he was crying when he did.
Proud Atheist said
I’m pretty sure Flasher is reffering to Hitler’s time. But that’s just me.
Proud Atheist said
Is anyone going to respond to my post on the 16th? anybody? Or is it so satanic and below you that you don’t even want to bother coming up with a counter argument? Still waiting here.
God is make believe.
iamevolved said
I truly hate all xtians. What a bunch of hypocrites.
Pridewalker said
Wow…just…wow…
At first I thought that this post (which I found a link to) was some form of aatiee. Unfortunately, the further I read, the more I was disturbed, simply because, you actually believe this.
I’m not even sure where to begin, but I guess I’ll start with the author’s misunderstanding of the main theme of The Scarlet Letter. This book was meant as a warning. It shows, exactly why, Puritanical law tainted a part of the past (as if the Salem Witch Trials didn’t do that enough). There can be little doubt of Hawthorne’s disdain for the stern morality and rigidity of the Puritans. It would appear that lessons such as this are wasted on those who fail to understand that only the foolish actively attempt to repeat history, learning nothing from it.
Next, I am completely amazed that after issuing a condemnation of an entire group of people (to put it in simpler terms, a judgement…something that the bible says only Yahweh can provide), Pastor Tobin has the audacity to cry that he’s been persecuted! Are you honestly shocked that after writing an intentionally inflammatory piece, that the people who you condemn would call you to task? Adding the letters DD behind your name (an honorific that holds no weight in the real world, I may add), do not make you an authority; nor do they offer you any sort of infallibility or protection. The same ‘degree’ is available for $25 american thru the ULC website.
I’m even more concerned by the fact that not a single conservative on this site knows the bible, as well as they claim. Jesus, by the very word you claim to take as literal, was a LIBERAL. He did not associate with the rich, or the powerful. Instead he spoke of charity. He spoke of loving all. He walked among those viewed as low, by society…theives, beggars, prostitutes, the sick and the lame, and criminals…without prejuidice.
I don’t know why I’m surprised or saddened by this…fundamentalists have a long standing tradition of ignoring fact, to uphold their myth.
Mod Note: Thanks for the information. Now leave.
Vanessa said
Did you descend from Hitler? Same blood…go look on your family tree and see ( that is if you can spare time from thinking about what would happen if your neighbours were atheists, shock, horror, and all of your useless going on, etc)
People like you ought tto wear a huge I for Idiot on their foreheads, so that the human species can be protected from you (no joke)
If you have managed to read this, well done! Now go jump off a cliff. That is if you can find one.
Mod Note: You need a huge “T” on yours for posting in old topics. The T stands for TWIT
Benjamin G. Dela Cruz said
This suggestion is the most absurd thing that I’ve heard in a while. Branding people with a red hot iron just because they do not follow your blind belief in an unproven God? Because they escaped from foolish Christian indoctrination at an early age?
Tell me, exactly how is this “showing God’s love”? Burning people with molten branding irons is not a way to spread “his” word. Can you show me one dedicated Atheist cult movement that molests children in the name of “The Lord”? I definitely can show you SEVERAL Christian ones. Christianity has long served as a catalyst for innecessary violence, looking at this page makes me understand why. Expressing intolerance for others people’s belief by giving them third degree burns is expressing a barbaric and savage predisposition towards others.
I’ve seen several of you Christians be unabashedly racist and hateful, but tell me now, did God not create “all man in his image”? If so, if your supposed God wishes hate upon Blacks, why did he create them looking like him? Is the color of a persons skin, for which they HAVE NO choice in the matter, a valid reason for discrimination and racism? How about being born into and atheistic society instead of being blindly indoctrinated by Christians? Is this a reason for such violence and cruelty?
Some of you uneducated people may be scoffed to learn that homosexuality is genetic, meaning that the children born with it have no choice whatsoever, but I’m willing to bet that you will continue to express your “righteous” hate towards millions of people around the world, whom I am sure you would kill, rape, and burn if given the opportunity.
Brother Yancy, USN Ret. said
Dear Ben
Zechariah 3
1And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.
2And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?
And if the Satan standing there was Richard Dawkins that brand would have an “A” for atheist and the Lord would poke it right in his Jesus-hating face.
God Bless
Benjamin G. Dela Cruz said
For starters, that was Jesus talking about brand in relation to SATAn, not atheists. Secondly, that verse never says that Jesus has any inclination of branding Satan. It only says “Is not this a brand plucked out of fire”? If I ask you. “Is this a gun”? That doesn’t mean I’m going to shoot you.
Dave said
Like many who have commented, I thought that this story was a satire on religious fundamentalists. It’s scary that it’s not.
To the more hateful posters on this blog, I suggest a small exercise. For a moment, use your imagination. Imagine that there is no God, that judgment day isn’t going to happen, that there is no heaven or hell, that Jesus was just a historical figure. I know you don’t believe this, but just pretend for a moment. Now once you’ve got this idea firmly in your head, go back and read some of your posts.
Maybe some of you will realize that it’s not the atheists that are acting in an evil and hateful manner.
The sad part is that most of you are probably good people in every other aspect of your life. The religion has so brainwashed you that you can’t see the harm you’re causing. You actually think that you are doing good by pushing these intolerant ideas.
wtargentina said
First time poster – wow you Americans are in trouble, I thought this kind of lunacy only existed in the minds of satirists.
Possibly the most worrying thing is you are still the most powerful nation on Earth – but hopefully the sub prime disaster will see to that. Then the Chinese will rule the world – and we know what they do to religions/cults.
Mod note: A first time poster? How exciting. Wait by the mailbox for your prize.
Alex Helson said
This is not a good website. I did not enjoy any part of it.
Amanda Long said
This was the most stupid website ever. It is so dumb I almost barfed. Do not read it it is TERRIABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mod note: My goodness, what a coincidence! Two people in a row, with different names, but the same e-mail address and IP address, weigh in on this old thread to voice their disapproval. What are the odds?
Yeoshuweh said
Actually, The Scarlett Letter was a novel written by Hawthorne about the horrors of puritan culture and how the punishment for sin only leads to hardship for all involved, including those giving out the punishment. Prynne, no matter what you say, happens to be the storys main protagonist, Hawthorne makes it very clear that in spite of her sin, she is the only moral, sane, and well natured individual in the entire novel. Cunningham, who follows the bible competely and as a result, seeks revenge for Hesters sins, is in fact the villian and is the one who suffers the most at the end.
By the way, Hawthorne was so disgusted by the acts of his ancestors (especially the judge at the salem witch trials) that he changed his surname as a result. His great grandfather was named Hathorne, Hawthorne added a letter to his last name to keep himself from being associated with that past.
Also, a scarlett letter of sorts was used as recently as the 20th Century, it was a Star of David placed on the clothing of Hebrews during the holucost.
And really, who are you to judge what should and should not be done to athiests? Shouldn’t the judging be left up to the Lord? Isn’t that what he, his son, and the prophets said on numerous occassions?
You have misread Hawthorne to fit into your very narrow, very wrong world view. You know nothing about literature. You know nothing about language. You know nothing about poetic devices. I doubt you know much about the religion you claim to follow.
Keep the academics to those who were actually educated.
Universal Life Church said
Personally, EVERYONE has something to contribute. No one path is correct. Those who believe it is the “one true way” are very, very confused.
Mod note: I believe this poster is referring to the person who calls himself “The One.”
Sephiroth said
a is for apple you idiot
not_a_xtian said
Oh look, its a bunch of moronic, inbred, pagan death cult followers. How is your invisible friend today?
A. Theist said
you are all clearly **unChristian word deleted** nuts. you all scare me.
Mod note: Why am I not surprised that a God-hater would use such shockingly foul language?
A. the 1st said
I personally think it’s wrong to force any group to wear any form of identification against their will, also, not all atheists are bad people, it’s ok to attack the ideals of a group if you can prove your point, but please try to refrain from generalizing people, especially groundless insulting ones like “all atheists worship satan” when in reality they worship nobody (supernatural at least).
Fred said
honestly, you people are a cult. The far right is probably one of the most terrifying things in the world. We are living NOW, not in biblical times.
Bobby G said
(not all atheists are bad people)
While that is true, God doesn’t count people out based on good or bad. The only thing that matters, is if you believe that Jesus is the Son of God, and have been saved by the shedding of His blood, and have accepted Him as your personal Savior. We cannot be saved by our own goodness. This is my belief, and I do not raile against yours. You live in a world without God, (A=no, theist=God), and tho I cannot understand that belief, I know that it takes more faith to believe the way you do than it does for me to believe the way I do.
I hope some day that you will change your belief, but only you can do that. To deny God, doesn’t make Him non-existant, just as denying that George Washington lived, makes him non-existant, and in the end reading and studying both may bring you to the reality that both are real.
The One said
“Mod note: Why am I not surprised that a God-hater would use such shockingly foul language?”
He doesn’t hate God, you dolt. He doesn’t believe in him, there’s a difference, you can’t hate something you don’t believe exists.
Don't worry about it. said
Okay…someone enilghtin me on this issue. WHY is it that Atheist are such bad people to you? Just because they don’t beleive in your god? Well in my experience, people come to beleive in a god due to a life changing experience or influence of another being…
Maybe these Atheist that you HATE so much have yet to experience such a thing, but if and when there comes a time that they find they are struggling in life and feel that something is missing they will look for a higher power to turn to…but I bet you ANYTHING that they won’t be turning to you…not with your hateful “open arms”…
Don't worry about it. said
A is for Agnostic…
Bobby G said
Since I am not an atheist nor and agnostic, and I do not hate either one, I am constantly amazed and troubled by those of the Christian faith that do. I agree, Don’t Worry, that people will not turn to a higher power, who’s followers are filled with hate. Since I believe in a God who loves His children and commands them to love others, I find it hard to do any less. Even morality demands that we turn away from things that are wrong,(sin), but never does the word of God demand that we hate the sinner. I hope this explains a little about what true christians are like, and that we won’t be linked with those who teach differently.
A. the 1st said
“God doesn’t count people out based on good or bad.”
I’m pretty sure he does.
Don't worry about it. said
They all just need to get off their high horses and acknowledge and admit to their own short comings. Today has been a bummer of a day for me and coming here actually doesn’t help, it just makes me sad, sooo nice talkin to you Bobby G and Arn. Have a good day.
Bobby G said
Hey, Don’t Worry,
Sorry your day was a bummer. It was really good conversing with you and it’s nice to have people who care about others on this site. I hope your day will get progressively better and good fortune and grace will smile upon you.
God Bless
Bobby G
eva said
Repent before Christ returns and you are casted in to the lake of fire! May God have mercy on your soul because no one else will!
Don't worry about it. said
Bobby G
Thank you for your concern! And you were right…my day did get progressively better! Nothin like hittin a bucket of balls at the driving rang to release some frustration. So I am back today and lookin to start up some interesting conversations!
Peace, Love and all that mumbo jumbo
A+heis+ said
God is not real, you delusional bigots. Religion is just an obstacle for knowledge to overcome.
POTA said
LOL@warrior jodie
@ A=Heist: and a way to face death
POTA said
Thank God i’m a atheist !!
A Fellow Nazi said
We should also make the Jews wear Star-of-Davids… and the homosexuals wear pink triangles… then the REAL fun begins! Eh, comrades!?
Weeee!!!
P.S. My point… What would Jesus do? Not what you’re suggesting, that’s what.
Aaron the Atheist said
Religion is a big crock of shit.
People solve problems not prayers. Thats one of the reasons why america is in such a deep pile of shit, because instead of us all uniting together and fixing the problem, we go to our local church or whatever and pray for a better tomorrow. Well guess what God is not going to save us when Judgement Day comes around. In fact, that day is not going to be because of God’s wrath, it will be from, the air being so fucking polluted from greedy factory companies, we will eventually run out of food to feed everyone on this planet because it is so fucking over-populated, and worse of all we will all kill each other because of our indiffernces in religion. That is why I belive that there is no gods. We make our own problems because of our selfish desires. I chose atheism because it is the truth that religious fucks have been trying to keep from you. They know it but will never admit it. If you don’t want a world that is dead, them start fixing problems instead of making more. We still have the chance from facing a horrible fate. So here is what you do:
Stop fucking reading this… or better yet send this message to everyone you know. Let the people of America and the world know that if we don’t get off our lazy asses, we will there will be no future for our children and their children and every generation after that. Because do we not want what is best for our children?
No more games. I am not going to stay in hiding anymore. I will reveal who I am. My name is Aaron Anderson. I am from Federal Way, Washington. I am eighteen years old and I am an atheist. If anyone who reads this knows who I am, then you just learned something about me that I bet that you never would have guessed. To my family, I am sorry if this comes as a major disappointment to you, but this was the conclusion I drew about life after many years of long and hard deep thinking. I am also sorry if I let you down in anyway. I hope you will still love me anyway. And by the way don’t try to change my mind either. I have made the decision and will stick to it. To everyone else: if you don’t like what you read, then fuck off. If you do, do something about our worldly problems instead you doing your daily “crock of shit” routines.
One last note, my dad always told me to be apart of the solution, not the problem. Those are words that everyone needs to understand. If you don’t then I wish you best of luck at trying to make the world a better place to live.
Peace everyone.
vann smith said
You should be ashamed of yourself. Do you think this is going to convert anyone? No. It will just make atheists and agnostics distrust Christians more. It’s funny how you people breathing hellfire about atheists never mention agnostics. Because the venom of your speech would be more apparent if you reveled in the eternal torture of people that have no guilt other than that they don’t wholeheartedly believe in your religion. Any decent person, Christian or not, would be disgusted at your comments.
Mel Steffir said
The second coming of God is at hand. Take heed and make note. God has returned. He has come to dismantel a broken down split-up disfunctional Church. He is going to strike out the words of the Romans and rebuild the Church in his own words. Start by opening your bible to the title page that reads “New Testament”. Strike out the words New Testament and retitle this page “Roman Mythology”. You have now completed the first step in rebuilding Gods Church. Don’t toss your bible out, Gods word is mixed in with the word of man. God is going to tell you what is his and what belongs to the Romans.
Mel Steffir said
In the Spring of 2006 God sent a message. The message is about the meaning of First is Last and Last is First. The message is this:
In the morning I go to Heaven. In the afternoon I live my life. In the evening I die, death.
What does this mean? It means that Birth is Last and Last is Birth. God also gives and example so that you can understand this better. Example: Mike Douglas died on his Birthday. (Note that Mike Douglas and Michael Douglas are two different people.)
Mel Steffir said
In 2007 God had this to say: We each die in succession, then we are born on the same day.
God also gives proof that this message is from him. The proof is in the story of 3 famous people, Mike Douglas, Merv Griffin and Nancy Reagan. Mike Douglas dies on his birthday. Merv Griffin dies the day after Mike. Merv and Nancy Reagan are born on the same day. Gods gives proof for all of his messages. Don’t believe in anything without proof. The Church doesn’t give you any proof that anything in the bible is from God.
Mel Steffir said
God is also saying that Mike, Merv and Nancy are going to Heaven. Pope Benedict XVI goes to Heaven too. God also gave 3 examples of people that are going to Heaven, Hell and Death.
Richard Dawkins: Heaven. Leona Helmsley: Hell. Jerry Falwell Vanishes, or Death. Now you can do your own research on these people to understand why this is their destiny. Gods proof is in the meaning of their names. Example, “Daw” means Gods favorite. You can research that for yourself. Note God is saying that Good Atheists go to Heaven. You don’t have to believe in God or Jesus.
Mel Steffir said
Correction: To the meaning of First is Last and Last is First. It means that Birth is Last and Birth is First. Sorry for the error. God talks in symbols and opposites at times, so it takes time to figure out what he is saying. Some of his messages are clearer than others, plus they have multiple meanings.
eleasah said
What a delightful idea – sorry it’s been done already… by HITLER.
It’s bigots like you that give religion its bad name. Yes, bigots.
GingerTheExXtian said
Have any of you Christians ever tried asking an atheist why they don’t believe? I have come to my own conclusion that if Christianity is the one true religion, I would rather be in hell then in heaven with judgmental hypocrites.
Nathanial Hawthorn didn’t have a good and upright Christian family–his grand-father was a judge in the Salem Witch Trials, which we all know murdered innocent men and women. The Scarlet Letter and The House of the Seven Gables was exposing the evils of Puritanism.
And aren’t you Christians that are calling for atheist like me to be branded with an A on my forehead doing exactly what you fear? The government could care less if you are an atheist or Christian, so they have no need to label you with some kind of “Mark of the Beast.”
John Bee said
So now I finally understand. Christians seem to be full of hatred for snyone who does not agree with them. I was a Christian until I read all these awful messages – obviously Christians do not follow Christ’s teachings so I have decided it is not for me. I am sure that all religions can not be so false and that I can find another.
June Gordon said
“I was a Christian until I read all these awful messages”
Liar liar pant on fire in Hell!
McCritical said
Actually, the Scarlet A is part of an “atheist” campaign (I put “atheist” in quotes because most atheists don’t define themselves by what they don’t believe. Sane people believe that human beings are defined my more than their absence of faith), not a Christian one, to identify atheists with their own unique symbol. The problem with the campaign is that anti-dogmatics wear the A (which makes them easier to avoid) and actual atheists don’t feel the need for a ridiculous gimmick to draw attention to themselves so they can regurgitate The Selfish Gene every time someone appears bored enough to listen.
I can respect a person who chooses to not believe in the same things I believe in, but anti-dogmatics are incredibly annoying. Give me a guy who doesn’t believe in anything over a guy whose belief system is a noxious mix of Starbucks and Dawkins.
Hamm Sahmich said
Atheists and apostates of all variety should know that when the end times come (an they are soon!) THEY WILL SUFFER AND WAIL IN TURMOIL! Putting an ‘A’ on someone will only reveal to the faithful what God Himself already sees plainly: a wretched soul. I see these Scarlet A’s on shirts of CHILDREN in my town of Portland, OR and I wish that I could help them all. I weep and pray for them all.
Jon Catt said
what a fantastic thread, a carefully woven tapestry of preaching…
There are some good people here, some believe, some do not. There are some angry people here, some believe, some do not. You get the idea, folk are the same all over, believers are just that bit more scarey.
To quote the great Douglas Adams “I am a radical atheist” – it just makes it simpler for a Believer to understand your point of view, without even the need for conversation. Afterall, an Athiest exists and doesn’t need to preach to be believed.
a Great quote: “I just believe in one less God than you do. When YOU understand why YOU disbelieve in ALL other Gods, you’ll understand why I disregard them all.”
I said – to truely know Heaven or Hell you must first die, and once dead, you cannot visit the Living to tell the tale. Therefore all that you “know” of either place, is false, fiction and fake.
Happy New year – I didn’t celebrate christmas again… just can’t seem to pin down the date…
Jon.
Tiffany Wellsley said
Jon,
Just out of curiosity, have you ever had an original thought, or do you just spend your life collecting other people’s musings, like some second rate librarian, shelving books under the Dewey Decimal system? What is truly laughable is that your post drips with hubris, as though you’re proud of yourself for being able to copy other people’s quotes into a blog box. LOL!
Tiffany
Phillip Turner said
[FOUL, UNCHRISTIAN WORD] you [FOUL, UNCHRISTIAN WORD][FOUL, UNCHRISTIAN WORD][FOUL, UNCHRISTIAN WORD] for being the same [FOUL, UNCHRISTIAN WORD] people who don’t understand or want to understand anyone’s religion other than your own. You keep such a closed mind that you don’t know [FOUL, UNCHRISTIAN WORD] about the world. You teach your children the same stupid [FOUL, UNCHRISTIAN WORD] so that they can’t even make decisions for themselves, luckily I found the real truth after I left my house because of my conservative parents who always argue that I’m wrong. I’m my own [FOUL, UNCHRISTIAN WORD] person, and I choose not to be brainwashed. [FOUL, UNCHRISTIAN WORD] You.
MODERATOR’S NOTE: You did your parents a favor by leaving, probably to become a drug addicted, underage prostitute. No Christian parent wants anyone in their lovely, Christian home with such a foul tongue.
Jon Catt said
Ah, young Miss Tiffany Wellsley – how refreshing that another mis-guided, racist person has been raised by unloving parents.
I am actually really good at copying other folks quotes, you just have to find the right ones:
“Karen,
What a wonderful post! I agree with you, that it would have been best for June to leave the child somewhere else, like Popeye’s, where it would have been picked up and raised by its own kind. Since it was left at a liquor store, it might have been brought up by Koreans. Mixing races is bad enough, but a black Korean? Rap is bad enough without a bunch of “ching” and “eye-yah” sounds. (Beware of the yellow peril!) We can’t fault June, though, because it was probably traumatic enough for her to go into labor in a liquor store before she could even down a shot. The DTs alone probably ensured that the birth occurred right there.
Tiffany”
Which kind of makes me wonder (i) just how insecure you are, (ii) how long you’ve been a virgin, and (iii)when you’re getting your gastric-band fitted. No, I don’t think you REALLY had kids, you’re far too selfish and lazy for that kind of hard work. Prayer Warrior??? Funny, the bible is written by men, for men, for control. I guess you’ll always be a sucker for men. Probably women too. Try not to sweat too much on them, with your putrid, pale flesh.
Are you also the moderator, or just getting off with them occasionally? hillarious, and sad.
See You Next Tuesday
Jon.
Tiffany Wellsley said
Jon,
You are the epitome of a coward. You’re a (so-called) “man” who gets off attacking women he doesn’t even know, simply because he disagrees with them. Hence, you accuse me of being obese (I’m a size 4, but I digress) simply because you don’t like my post. You accuse me of being young (thank you for that one) just because you don’t like my message. You have no knowledge of my age or weight. You just lash out at me because you don’t like what I’ve written. You are thus the very bigot you claim to oppose.
In addition to being a bigot, you are most certainly Yno gentleman. You’re not even really a “man.” You’re a sniveling little sissy who wouldn’t have the guts to say anything he wrote in his posts to the victim’s face. (Of course, that might be because my husband would knock you into the next city if you did.) You hide behind your computer like the little boy that you are.
Enjoy living life as a gutless hypocrite,
Tiffany
Triforcharity said
Tiffany,
For someone that jumps on other people’s cases for misspelling and typos, you sure do have alot of your own. Ie: You’re a (so-called) “man” who gets off attacking women [sic] he doesn’t even know, simply because he disagrees with them.
This should have been “a woman” not women. Women is plural, and you are only one, not more than one.
In addition to being a bigot, you are most certainly Yno [sic] gentleman.
Please, feel free to point of the splinter in someone else’s eye, when you have a plank in your own.
Tiffany Wellsley said
TFC,
Once again, you have proven that you’re an idiot (no mystery there). I used the word “women” intentionally because I was referring to the poster’s generic tendency. Did you notice that I used the pronoun “them” later in the sentence? “Them” is a plural pronoun.
The decision of whether to attack the writer for his behavior toward women, generally, or toward me, specifically, was mine, not yours. You may claim I have no proof that he behaves that way toward women, but that claim has nothing to do with whether the sentence was grammatically correct.
It is truly hard to imagine that you ever graduated from any primary school.
Tiffany
Mel Steffir said
God sees everything, doesn’t he?
This is one small piece of proof that God talked to me:
Like I said earlier, the Holy Spirit talked to me, besides his message about First is Last and Last is First, he had something to say about “Who Killed JFK”. Christ tells me that the man who shot JFK is a policeman. He also tells me the name of the shooter, but it is in a jumbled word. The word is “Fritters”. I see the name F. Ritter right off so I think that is the name of the killer. Now God has lots of other messages for me to figure out, so I put “who Killed JFK” on the back burner for over a year. A year or more later , just recently, I have more time to look for F. Ritter. I can’t find a policeman with that name who lived in Dallas, Texas in 1963. So I am searching for information about who killed JFK and there is a picture of a policeman by the name of J D Tippit. Now Tippit kind of looks like Ritter. Now I unjumble the letters of Ritter to get TIRRET. Now TIRRET looks more like TIPPIT. Now I make the R’s stand at attention, I get TIPPET. One problem is that the I and the E are not the same. So I do some research on the family name TIPPIT. Turns out that in the late 1800’s JD Tippit’s grandfather changed their name from Tippett to Tippit. So the next step I change the E to I. So Tippet is now Tippit.
Now I have FS Tippit and JD Tippit. The first two initials are not the same. Next I go to Wikipedia, there I find; “Some thought that J D stood for “Jefferson Davis” however JD does not stand for anything”. That means his name is just J D. So the initials F S , do not stand for anything. I just have two initials that do not stand for anything. Are you following me?
Next what does “FRITTERS” mean. If your following my thinking here, God is going to tell you what happened to JD Tippit after he was shot. Fritters is a dough that is deep fried. Bread also means body, like in the last super Christ takes the bread and says this is my body. Look in the dictionary, PIT means HELL. TIP means money paid, gratuity. There are other meanings to. These meanings tell a story.
JD Tippits body (dough) is placed in the deep fryer (lake of fire). Now I think this clue (Fritters) was ingenius. After all God came up with it. I think he does have a sense of humor too. Kids now have a new game to play. They can play God. Pilsbury dough boy fry’s in the lake of fire. You get HELL! fry baby fry!
If you think this is just crazy. Remember I am just the messenger. Jesus is the one that had to talk about JFK. So he had a reason for doing that. Only God knows who the killer is. This is proof that Christ talked to me and that is the reason he told me “Who killed JFK”. It is proof. I had forgotten about the case years ago. This is a cold case now, it been 45 years since the shooting.
I also read the part about giving false prophesy. God says false prophets go to Hell or something like that. I only repeat what God told me. Now what I wrote above is from God. He told me who killed JFK in 2006. The above is not a lie or a joke and I am going to HEAVEN without fear.
Before I forget. Gods messages usually have more than one meaning. F S could also stand for “Fence Shooter”.
Who are the co-conspirators? Turns out that there are two policemen named Tippit, and one Tippett working in the Dallas police Department that same year(1963). Back to the clue word Fritters. That is plural, you know about plural. We have two fritters. The co-conspirators name is Gayle M. Tippit.
Now the Dallas Police Departtment obviously covered up and framed Oswald. He was the Patsy. They did it cause it is very possible that one of the other police officers rushing to the scene saw Tippet fleeing the scene carrying a rifle. They covered it up because of the embarrassment of one of their own was the man that killed JFK? And the Warren commission must have also figured that out so they stuck with the Dallas Dept. story saying that it was Oswald. It could have been a National embarrassment. Now if you look at the evidence like I did. It is easy to see that the DAllas Police Dept tampered with the evidence over and over again. And they did a very bad job of it too.
Now this is my opinion, not Gods. I think God is behind the creation of the Internet. I could never have been able to figure out a lot of his messages without the use of the Internet. People on the Net have been a big help to me. God talks to other people too, they just don’t know it. God let me know it was him.
Now I just made solving the case of “Who shot JFK?”, look easy. I also gave you proof here. Did you see it? You ask where’s the proof. The proof is that it is impossible for anyone to repeat what I just did above. I mean try it. And I do that over and over again in all of God’s messages.
See if you can make up a word that is a fried food (like fritters). Unjumble the letters to reveal the name of the killer (Tippit). Then divide the word Tippit into words that describe what happened. Tip- means that JD Tippit was paid for the job and the presidency was over turned. Pit – means that he went to Hell for what he did. Pit means the worst Hell.
See if you can prove me wrong. Show me how easy it is to make up a name like “Fritters” that solves the crime. This clue is ingenious. God came up with the name “FRITTERS”. God is a genius, not me. I am only the messenger.
Then the two remaining letters F. S. stands for Fence Shooter. It’s INGENIUS!
Then on top of that it just so happens that there are two Tippit’s working in the Dallas Police Department in 1963. Fritters (plural) means we have more than one Fritter going in the deep fryer . The other shooter is Gayle M. Tippit. He goes to Hell too. Now I did some research on Gayle M Tippit. There is very little information on him unlike JD Tippit. In my search I found two Gayle Tippit’s still in Dallas. One died in 1967 and the other is married and still lives in Texas. So the other conspirator could still be alive and has managed to avoid detection.
This is where it gets intesting. Does Gayle M. Tippit come forward and ask God to forgive him? I think he also has to ask the American people to forgive him for his part in the murder of the president or he gets the worst Hell just like JD did. God told me that waiting until the 11th hour is too late. God is forgiving, but you can’t wait until your on your death bed to ask to be forgiven.
Now if Gayle M. Tippit wants to save himself from the deep fryer. (This could be a long fry, not a quick dip.) He has to come forward and ask to be forgiven. He still gets death or Hell but it won’t be the worst Hell. Just like the worst death is being crucified. The Dallas Police Department also has to answer to God for their part in the cover-up and the arrest of an innocent man.
Gods Messenger, Mel
JFK said
You really are quite sad.
Ritter, your so called assassin, was an assassin from the X-files!!
Wake up and smell the coffee.
Giordano Bruno said
Funny how the digital age can accomodate people who really belong in the Middle Ages.
I thought this was a joke at first, but nope – there are people out there who would brand heretics like cattle.
random [Darwinian lie removed] said
this is one [obscenity deleted]. if there was a hell i have just read the writings of some [foul, unkind word deleted] that would have gone there. you [viciousness omitted] are beyond [devilish activity removed]. btw I hope somehow [obscenity removed] is a better word than the “unchristian” one that [unChristian thought removed].
firestarter said
What about G for [unChristian word removed]?
blueollie said
Random: punctuation and proper usage would be nice. Unfortunately, the best written parts of your post are those where the moderator properly censored your unChristian thoughts and sayings.
You are obviously delusional.
random ape, baboon specifically said
[Entire post deleted to completely unChristian content. Try again, baboon.]
blueollie said
Random Ape, Baboon specifically: I’ll try to communicate to you in your jargon. If you believe what the silly atheistic EVIL-loutionists say (which I don’t) you’d know that apes and baboons are modern animals; we (according to the evolutionists) aren’t really descended from them. They claim (snicker) that we have a common ancestor (because of life trees, 90-95 percent of DNA in common, homology tress, etc. (chortle, laugh).
Of course that is all false; The Almighty is merely testing our faith.
Though this link is from an atheist site, it shows what the good, God Fearing folks in Oklahoma are doing (this is a resolution in the State House):
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/03/richard_dawkins_banned_in_okla.php
See, that is what Godly legislators do! Is it any wonder that Oklahoma is the only lower 48 US State in which Barack “I love Osama” Obama (the atheist Muslim) didn’t win a single country?
random ape said
you win mr. mod! good job
random ape said
Blueollie, you have no idea of the contents of my posts. Consequently, you and I are speaking of different issues. So thanks for your enlightenment, but you see I made no claims contradicting our common descent with the apes. However it is clear that you fail at the comprehension of information; the tree of life is evidence of common ancestry as much as a policeman’s note book is evidence of the occurrence of the crime he is investigating. (girlie giggles)
I guess you would rather believe the animal kigndom was created to look just like it would have if EVILution had happened just so that the Almighty can test us on our belief, hoping that we choose from the right ancient books and the good feelings believing gives us?
P.S. The origin of our species is the domain of science not God Fearing folks in Oklahoma nor even the God hating atheists they hate.
One more thing, you could add “pedophile” to Barack “I love Osama” Obama (the atheist Muslim)’s titles, it will make your point even clearer. (somewhere in between “the” and “atheist” would be ideal
(snort snort)
random ape said
I should mention that you were right about my post ollie, the best parts were censored
blueollie said
“contents of my posts”
It is “content of my posts” or “contents of my post”. You are clearly an illiterate and therefore an agent of Satan.
The origin of humans is clearly outlined in the Bible:
Genesis 1:
http://baptistsforbrown2008.wordpress.com/2007/08/02/the-scarlet-letter-a-is-for-atheist/#comment-38043
You see: He made them ONE DAY after he made the animals and he made males and females together…
http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/genesis/genesis2.htm
That’s right Tonto, he made Man, animals and then Women….oh wait….my head hurts!
Oh, it all works out: God did it all and if you don’t believe that you are doomed to hellfire.
Scarlet A from Belgium said
I am proud to be an atheist who has read more than a single book over and over. Look around you and buy yourself a scarlet I for idiot to show everyone who you are.
Religious people should bear marks so that they can show how proud they are to be idiots.
See you in hell!
blueollie said
“I am proud to be an atheist who has read more than a single book over and over.”
So you read lots of books over and over again? If you were smart, you’d get it right the first time.
“See you in hell!”
Oh, you’ll see lots of people in hell, but you won’t see us.
You’ll see: European socialists (such as yourself), unified currency supporters, atheists, agnostics, faux Christians, liberals, scientists, drunkards (one notable exception), drug addicts (one notable exception), weed heads, stem cell researchers, Obama supporters, people who think that Chuck Norris is an idiot, and Mexicans.
RR Davey said
Look who has come all the way from the land of fat waffles to insult our Godly board. Why Scarlet dearie, does the A stand for Arrogant or just plain _sshole?
Yours in the Blood of the Lamb,
Rapture-Ready Davey
Random Ape said
illiterate? hmmmm.. did someone tell a lie or is it just ignorance? And who’s the father of all lies? huh? huh? oh wait, I just remembered.. you fail at simple comprehension. Agent of Satan? Way to go man. Everyone knows that Lucifer loves the smart asses. Blessed are the illiterate.
blueollie said
Hey Random Ape: why don’t you go back to eating bananas (which were designed to be eaten by humans) and to swinging on trees.
Yes, you are clearly an agent of Satan; I got a direct revelation.
I think you’d be better off with your fellow simians at a site like RichardDawkins.net than here.
Random Ape said
Once again.. lies or ignorance? That’s a modern banana. Bananas were nothing like that prior to domestication (they were hardly even edible!). look it up Ollie, then think about what that means.. see how much your advanced brain can grasp. Nice try human. (snicker chortle grunt etc)
As for my metaphysical affiliations.. do you really need a revelation to know that someone who doesn’t share your beliefs (eg. non-baptists, people who think that Chuck Norris is an idiot, Mexicans, etc.) is in league with the devil?? ..or analyse my grammar?
Thanks for all the advice. It shall be considered, earnestly.
BrotherInChrist said
Try spelling analyze correctly with the letter Z not the bloody British spelling. The Republican here refers to the U.S. GOP, God’s Own Party Republicans.
(snicker chortle grunt etc) Sounds like Satan is rolling out your welcome mat.
blueollie said
Random Ape: sorry, but the world is only 6000 years old and not much has changed over this period of time.
I am sorry you have chosen to use a Satanic spelling of “analyze”.
You are going to pay a heavy price for all eternity. Repent before it is too late!
Random Ape said
That’s right ollie stick your fingers in your ears.. you are the one who brought banana’s up. And can someone please tell me why British spelling (i.e. the original) is wrong? Or even satanic?? Is there anything that doesn’t conform to your arbitrary mannerisms you don’t hate?
blueollie said
Oh dear: “banana’s”. Excuse me, but the bananas aren’t in possession of anything and you didn’t mean to say “banana is”.
Your terrible grammar is indeed Satanic. Clearly, you are an atheist who is doomed.
Random Ape said
Wow ollie, you’ve really got me this time. You are awesome. Thanks for teaching me how to use the apostrophe, obviously I was wrong all along. Finally I see the light and I owe it all to you; at least my grammar is saved.
But my heart remains remains unrepentant and thus I shall not see heaven. Doesn’t it make you sad when you think about all those souls made in God’s image perishing for eternity? Poor us. Btw, being Satanic doesn’t necessarily imply I’m Atheist. I could merely be a stinky Mexican for all you know. I suggest you pray for a brain if you’re interested in contemplating such deep concepts.
Also, I hope you pray for forgiveness every time you post a reply, or even read my post; I don’t think one can have this much contact with sin and Satanic agents and remain righteous… It’s worse than watching porn, don’t you think? Go now and cleanse thyself, lest the rapture should happen now!!
Finally, let me say thanks for the attention and entertainment. You’ve beeen a good sport; prompt responses, attention to detail, even pretending to be a retard for my amusement.. I could go on and on. I hope you enjoyed it at least half as much as I did. Thank you.
Love,
Your favoUrite ape
P.S. What do God and Mary do when they are bored? Play angel chess? Cloud hockey? Aerobic workouts on water?? What do they do?? Scriptural reference would be appreciated
Random Ape said
[UnChristian, obscene text deleted]
Random Ape said
Since when did questioning the integrity of another human being become an obscene thing? You are a human being, Mr. Mod?
blueollie said
“Doesn’t it make you sad when you think about all those souls made in God’s image perishing for eternity? ”
Of course not! Part of the joy of being “saved” is that we get to enjoy the torments of the damned!
In fact, The Almighty communicated to me that Republican Faith Chat faithful will have a special section where we can see the best torment.
“I’ve got joy, joy, joy, deep in my heart!”
Brother Bob L. Yates, Jr. said
Of course you are completely correct Brother Blueollie, Praise Jesus! To quote the Holy Bible…
Psalm 52: 5-7 – God shall likewise destroy thee for ever, he shall take thee away, and pluck thee out of thy dwelling place, and root thee out of the land of the living. Selah. The righteous also shall see, and fear, and shall laugh at him: Lo, this is the man that made not God his strength; but trusted in the abundance of his riches, and strengthened himself in his wickedness.
Praise the Lord Almighty!
Danielle said
I agree completely. Christians and Conservatives should wear scarlet C’s for us L’s and A’s to see those which we should only use small words and illogicalities with.
`b.dillon said
Your are an embarrassment to all humanity,
This is the most sick & disturbing thing I have ever heard.
Tiffany Wellsley said
‘B.Dillon (whatever the heck that means),
You wrote: “This is the most sick & disturbing thing I have ever heard.”
If that’s true, you have lived one of the most sheltered lives in history. It must be nice to live in a bubble where you’ve been molly-coddled all your life. Why don’t you come join us in the real world some day? Then again, you probably couldn’t handle it. You’d better stay in your bubble.
Tiffany
Free Child Of The Universe said
I took great pleasure, (as I always do), in reading the intelligent comments posted by members of atheist community. =) It provided me with humor and laughter in the face of evil and terror. I am against religion, however, I do have many religious friends. They use it as a security blanket for warm and fuzzy feelings about love, heaven and purpose. I generally don’t interfere with their feel good beliefs. However, I fully support abolishing this website. Too much hatred is festering here and spreading like a plague. At first I was amused by the hateful extremist claims about labeling atheists with symbols for target practice. As I continued reading the numerous “Christian” comments I truly felt afraid. I can almost imagine the angry mob outside my door armed with pitch forks and torches ready to persecute me despite my innocence. I don’t approve of Christianity being used as a mask for fulfilling sadistic, tortuous desires. Disgusting websites like this inspire lost souls to return to the hateful ways of the dark ages. Atheist people like me deserve our rights and freedoms. We too have working moral consciences and compasses to guide us. Happiness, love, compassion, guilt, shame etc. are universal emotions. They are unique to the human race. Never forget this. So instead remember this simple concept and strengthen your tolerance and understanding of the diversity of the human race. =)
blueollie said
452: “I don’t approve of Christianity being used as a mask for fulfilling sadistic, tortuous desires.”
1. No one cares what you approve of or not.
2. We have freedom of speech in the USA. If you don’t like it, don’t live here. No one asked you to come here.
3. What we don’t approve of is faux Christians coming on and treating His religion as if it were some post modernist Oprah therapy session. The Almighty has requirements and those who fail to meet them will suffer real consequences, which are not limited to pain and suffering in this life and eternal suffering in the next.
4. This is not the place for atheists, so kindly stay away unless you want to join His Flock.
Free Child Of The Universe said
“This is not the place for atheists, so kindly stay away unless you want to join his Flock.”
Your quote makes me vividly recall my horrid visit to the racist website Jew watch. In Jew watch anti semitists monitor Jewish organizations with paranoid close scrutiny in hopes of “exposing them” as the vile scheming terrorists who want world domination. And sadly, that is not an exaggeration.
I find this website to be a replica of Jew watch. Except that this one is less structured and relies on insults rather than research on the “enemy’s” recent activity. Arrogantly shooing away investigating atheists will only aggravate us further.
Because many of you are unfamiliar with the filth that is Jew Watch I shall compare your “no atheists allowed attitude” with a real life scenario and explain the reasoning behind our aggravation.
Lets relate the situation to a rumour. You are a student in school. You are in say the art club. Now a snob has decided to spread rumors about the decency of your club and its members. The said rumours are then taken as truth by the ignorant public. The principle gets involved and hassles the art club until less artistic expression is allowed, no new supplies are allowed, teacher is fired etc. Worst case would be eliminating the art club completely. Its reputation has been completely ruined.
How was this achieved? Spreading fear, lies, slander etc.
Rumours, lies, slander, spreading fear leads to trouble. As a human being if I am aware of other people doing this behind my back I will confront them. Otherwise “friends” may turn away from me.
This site is backstabbing atheists. This is the internet and free speech is allowed. I have avoided swearing and racial slurs and therefore my commentary cannot be legally considered offensive. Therefore I will bravely assert my right to abolish slander behind my fellow athiests’ backs.
I know that after I submit this I will be attacked and most likely forcibly removed from the commentary even if I have done no legal wrongdoing.
In your defence you shall argue you have not commited any legal wrongdoing either.
However, by participating in internet bullying of atheists and other non-Christians and impatiently asking them to exit the premises you are condoning Jew watch and other racial sites to similarly exist and continue to shamefully harass their victims.
Yes. Talking negatively about somebody and asking them to leave the room in real life is considered harassment. The difference with a website is that you are hiding on the internet. Sometimes your harassment will even overlap with reality and hurt somebody.
Furthermore atheism is not my only identity, I am a proud Canadian/Ukrainian, supporter of human and animal rights etc. I think defining a person by only one of their many attributes is quite silly. We would require too many cattle brands. Humans are not cattle. People and their beliefs are subject to change.
People like to be liked for their personality instead of their particular beliefs. The hiring system operates by hiring skilled people instead of basing their criteria on belief. Why should life be any different?
Atheists are not here to hurt people as you seem to believe. We are not wolves in sheep’s clothing. The same argument applies to this Christian website. It has a whole agenda of targets to hit and victimize.
I’ve had my rant. That doesn’t guarantee however, I won’t be back. I will not take kindly to harassment. I don’t care what YOU say either. The same free speech applies to me. Burning in hell is also a death threat. Even websites can attract media attention so you have been warned. Keep your discriminatory thoughts and death threats away from the public. The internet is not bully user friendly when media is alerted.
I doubt that media coverage would actually happen however, because there are bigger culturally insensitive, politically incorrect, racist, discriminatory issues being addressed that are causing actual deaths.
Deaths that are desired on this website, you sick freaks.
blueollie said
454:
1. “This is the internet and free speech is allowed”
But you have no “right” to post here; the moderator can strike your comments down and ban you. No liberal “activist SCOTUS justice” can come to your rescue.
2. “However, by participating in internet bullying of atheists and other non-Christians and impatiently asking them to exit the premises you are condoning Jew watch”
You obviously have a poor command of logic. Our message here is simple: “Obey the Almighty or suffer the consequences.” We merely point out what happens when you try to defy Him and we point out when faux Christians try to water down the One True Faith to make it palatable to modern sensibilities.
3. “Yes. Talking negatively about somebody and asking them to leave the room in real life is considered harassment.”
Wrong. There is freedom of association. You used the site “Jew Watch” so I’ll use that analogy: what do you think would happen if a Jew decided to make himself at home in the living room of a house where a Nazi lived? There is no harassment here, merely moronic atheistic know-it-alls barging in where they are not welcome.
4. “I’ve had my rant. That doesn’t guarantee however, I won’t be back. I will not take kindly to harassment. I don’t care what YOU say either. The same free speech applies to me. Burning in hell is also a death threat. Even websites can attract media attention so you have been warned. Keep your discriminatory thoughts and death threats away from the public. The internet is not bully user friendly when media is alerted.”
Have you seen a psychologist to talk about your delusions of grandeur?
Yes, you will burn in hell and we’ll laugh at you while you do.
Now go away and do something useful, like, say, holding your breath until you turn blue or throwing yourself on the ground while crying and screaming.
Free Child Of The Universe said
Fine. I understand now. Because I do not believe in the Lord Almighty, (when I believed the Lord continually failed to save me several times), listen to the “Devil’s music”, (rock and roll), am not paranoid and homophobic, wear makeup, (I am female), have studied evolution and found it to be logical and applicable to the origins of life, do not believe in Bible stories, (life inside a whale? COME ON!)and do not attend church unless asked to sing at a congregation, (I have been asked to before by my piano teacher because I take voice lessons and sing quite nicely), I cannot be saved?
What kind of heaven is that?!? I am beyond salvation because of my doubt?!? How can you base your reasoning on faith?
If hypothetically you happened to be born in the middle east, you would believe in Islamic religions etc. because of location! location! location!
The majority of peoples’ religion depends on usually:
a) Where they are born
b) What religeon their parents and family belong to, (indoctrination starts early in childhood)
Or of course you may convert or stop altogether, (like I did.)
So how can peace, equality and human rights be achieved if the world is in continuous religious warfare? Such as terrorist Muslims wanting to destroy America? Religeon gives a dangerous us vs. them attitude which leads to unnecessary slaughter.
Why would any sane person pray for another crusade? I researched the crusades for my social studies project. The mass killings made me feel naseous and absolutely deppressed. It shook the very foundations of my heart.
People NEVER deserve to be unjustly slaughtered. A truely loving God would not wish for his flock to engage in such avoidable brutual conflict; albeit a jelous one would welcome such massacre.
Stop campaginging for anther war. Christians need to make peace with the rival Muslims. History repeats itself and this website’s launch of attack is truly sickening. Your own Christ preached love and moral behavior. Why can’t you follow HIS teachings?
When I used to be Christian, I took refuge in Jesus’s teachings. Mind you, they still apply even though now I don’t believe him to be the actual son of God. My conversion to atheism has not changed my moral behavoir. I help people because it still makes me feel good inside. Now I just belive that’s because of my brain’s chemical reactions etc. not because of “the holy spirit”. Life is the same no matter what you believe in. I do not deserve your cruel treatment.
Nobody does. Murderers are an exception etc. But I am not going into those details. I only wish atheists and other innocents can be safely accepted by modern society.
The white majority used to believe black people were lesser beings, demons, devils, ape-men etc. Why are you still applying the same bias to good regular people who happen to be outside your religion?
Imagine if black people were still under oppression. The idea is sickening. Your heart clenches. So what really is the difference?
Atheists are not devils.
If I go to hell, (which I highly doubt if it did ever exist), I would try to save as many souls as possible and attempt peace. Lucifer according to Christianity used to be good. I would rally hell’s innocent inhabitants, (such as myself), and offer comfort to him because good exsists in everyone.
If a godly Armageddon occurred, (again I think we’ll destroy the earth instead with pollution etc,), then what happens after? Who’s to say that Lucifer wouldn’t get bored and wage another war between the two forces of good and evil? What I am trying to say is that despite the “immortality” and “eternal” label life, (even afterlife), is subject to change.
So knowing this and the Christian love of salvation, why wouldn’t God just forgive the sinners? If they may repent in this life the same can apply to the latter. Divine punishment for eons would change practically everybody. Peace could be forged if God took in his angel child Lucifer and showered him with love again.
Speculations such as this made me wonder why my religion was extremely negative, hate-filled, and full of unforgiveness.
I doubt any of you people are cruel to other human beings out of common courtesy. Why must you unleash a torrent of hate when inside the safety of your homes? I wish no harm to any of you. I am only angered when you wish death upon total strangers. That horrible perspective is what initiated my outburst in my former post.
I am sorry about that. I play nice. Please do the same.
[Moderator's note: Anyone who has time to read this veritable tome of nonsense has way too much time on his hands. Get a life!]
Free Child Of The Universe said
Pssh. Mod are you implying that your own Christian community are not free to wonder about their own afterlife? According to your religion the bible is the word of God and God’s commands. It is not, however, complete. It only gets as far as the Antichrist and Armageddon. While it does explain the hierarchy of angels etc. Yes I HAVE read the bible, it does not go into deep enough detail.
It just sticks an eternity label on hell and heaven. Yet the two places had battles previously… I’m only saying Armageddon hasn’t happened yet for all you know maybe your God had another plan up his sleeve to be revealed afterwards in his “divine” plan.
Or has everyone here eliminated their curiosity for fear of doubtful thoughts etc?
I have no faith so I can wonder all I want without being told by the priest to stop questioning. I like science because it has logical answers.
Yes I have a life. Why am I here? Many reasons, being appalled by this article which was brought to my attention by my brother, trying to desperately understand why and how such “pious” people harbor such hatred, aggression etc. towards atheists like me, and sheer morbid curiosity. My efforts at peace and understanding between us are futile yet I do not despair.
My faith in HUMANITY is that strong.
No this is not a veritable tome of nonsense. My opinions are backed by my own personal reasoning that has only been reached after much thought, research, debates, and deliberation. I do however, agree with many fundamentals of Christianity. My grandmother is the holiest person I know.
I am also trying to understand how such a loving kindred spirit such as her differs from the attitudes of this website.
I am also confused. What branch of Christianity is this website derived from? I myself used to be Catholic. The flaws in that branch seem less extreme then this one, or were the people in my former church just nicer?
Moderator go ahead and delete my post. Sorry for intervening and interfering with your little praise God sessions. Obviously my thoughts are automatically worthless and I will not find any answers here.
I bet you will not even tell me what sect/branch of Christianity you are because no one will dare to read my “veritable tome of nonsense” except the moderator who will delete it immediately after reading it. I have annoyed him/her enough.
I have to agree with random ape. It was fun while it lasted. By the way the many definitions of tome are rather complimentary not insulting as you intended. ha. ha.
I take my leave still alone in the dark. Everyone in the angry mob was quick to poke me with their pitch forks and torches instead of engaging in actual conversation with me.
I am tired of interacting with zealous, defensive Christians. I think I shall stick to my own family and friends who love me despite my atheism even though many of them belong to a Christian religion.
I am baptized too. So technically I am safe from the satan who you desperately want to flame me. ha. ha.
Goodbye. Don’t pray for my demise its not allowed. Then again this is a rather radical website so I have no idea what modifications you have added to your permissible actions. May the universe bless. I love this blue planet and all its worth. Stop staring at your heaven for once and look at it instead. =)
Free Child Of The Universe said
Actually, I would prefer if you kindly left my post God. I mean moderator. I admit my text sounded rather disconnected. I tried to connect too many ideas and the transition between them was not smooth. I brought up Muslims because I fear that the World is going to engage in a huge religious battle. I just thought that the Christian people on this site would be delighted to take an active part in creating this situation.
I really wished I could have read the other atheist posts as well as the religious ones. I am sorry for having openly taunted you God. I pray you do not bequeath your divine punishment upon me. I am undeserving of your celestial justice.
Oh moderator hear my wicked thoughts and cleanse them. Truly, no purification can erase my original sin. I fear your Godly deletion over my posts. I beg of you not to, you hold great authority and power over me. I am humbled by your sheer awesomeness.
Mere seconds later.
Thank you for having smited me moderator! I am grateful for my fitting burdens. Thank-you for casting me into the fiery pit of doom where I shall rot for eternity, be ripped apart by hell hounds, tortured, mutilated, eaten, burned, raped, and plagued by other unwholesome horrors repeatedly. I am grateful for such treatment! I am only a sinner God/moderator clearly I deserve such eternal penance.
I say goodbye whilst my eyes are gouged out by the massive maggots. I see and feel their own infected, blistering, tumours infested insides quite clearly as my flesh reforms for more abuse.
Yes. Moderator you are truly the God of this website. I decided to make my own demise more graphic for your twisted pleasure. I hoped you and your flock enjoyed my humble attempts of appeasement.
P.S. Is this really the hell you hope for?
If a simple paper cut can hurt like a son of a gun then how could anybody undergo this? Its worse than your childish nightmares. If such a calamity exsisted…
Again WHY? Really have you considered the implications this proposes? You can never jokingly say Burn in hell. It is the most awful notion humankind has ever conceived.
Praise be with the sane people such as myself. May we dispel the myth and and the desire to actually have this committed to people.
A for atheists! I will not wear your scarlet letter but I will comply and buy myself a t-shirt.
Moderator/God please do not delete my comments. If you desire I will describe graphically a blood sacrifice of sinners. Accept my gift, I fear your wrath. So I beg again in vain, spare me and my comments.
Wow. Typing all this was very disturbing. I’m going to go watch a happy Disney movie and feel good again. =)
Free Child Of The Universe said
Whoops. I mean t shirt that says a Richard Dawkins quote or something, or proud to be atheist. Not just the scarlet letter A. I did not think that sentence through. My bad. Your wish of identifying the infidels has been granted. Just don’t shoot me for it.
blueollie said
456: “I play nice. Please do the same.”
Play nice? Sorry, around here we follow THE BIBLE. Reach Joshua to find out what The Almighty does to “others”. Read what happens to those who don’t worship Him.
Evidently you confuse us with those who think of Christianity as some sort of Barney-Oprah new age “I love you, you love me” therapy.
I am almost loathe to leave these quotes because it came from fat wheezing costume wearing old Papists. But they were right on the money here:
1. Atheists are the world’s greatest evil.
2. Atheists are not fully human:
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Tiffany Wellsley said
Free Child,
You are a free child. You’re free to go. Now! You’ve left about a half dozen posts saying good-bye and insisting you are leaving. But you keep coming back and leaving posts even longer and more incomprehensible than the ones before. Please show that you have more integrity than Bobby G who has also lied and said he was leaving, only to return within a fortnight.
At the very least, take a leave of absence and enter a writer’s rehab program where they can help you overcome your addiction to verbosity and incoherent stream-of-consciousness jibberishness.
Tiffany
Free Child Of The Universe said
I’m sorry Tiffany. I do need to improve my writing skills. I just wish for my question to be answered before I say good riddance to this website entirely. What branch/sect of Christianity is this website? I want to know… Somebody please answer. I’m genuinely curious.
Tiffany Wellsley said
Free Child,
We are born again Christians. I assume most of us here are Southern Baptists. But the prerequisite to being a True Christian is not found in labels. It involves accepting Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior and validating that acceptance through full immersion baptism.
I hope that is a sufficient explanation so that you may now leave for good. Don’t let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.
Tiffany
Free Child Of The Universe said
Alright. Thank you for answering. Now I understand the full extent of your brainwashing. I hope you’re truly born again and ready to kill me for living a “half life”. After such a miraculous rebirth do you even consider atheists alive in the metaphorical sense? Never mind, I don’t want to hear the depressing response to that question.
I really want to leave. However, now I wonder what the proceedings are behind a full immersion baptism are. Really what is the difference?
To spare you some much needed relief from my thoughts and inquiries I’ll just research your religion instead of sticking where I am unwelcome and unjustly hated.
Then I shall immerse myself in depressing music because I have discovered the world is a lot crueler than I envisioned and my optimism on humanity’s progress proved to be a false and temporary illusion.
After that pathetic bout of sorrow. I’ll roam free until I eventually find an oasis where lost souls such as myself gather and live in harmony.
Damn. Your right. The sensitivity in my writing just sounds cliche and cheesy. Oh well, isn’t that the way the world is?
Bye. You won’t see me in death. I’m joining the vast, empty void. (This is the afterlife of an atheist). At least I avoid suffering.
blueollie said
464: Promises, promises.
Tiffany Wellsley said
Free Child,
Good-bye, and good riddance. You’re right about us not bumping into you during the afterlife because you will be roasting forever while being perpetually tortured in the flames of hell. You don’t get to choose to go to a void. Furthermore, your posts suggest you’ve been living in a void on earth for a long time.
Tiffany
Free Child Of The Universe said
I really did leave but returned with a vengeance. Ha. Ha. I just have the childish need to have the last say in this matter. So DO NOT answer back to me. I just want to say that I WILL NOT be burning in your stupid hell. Keep wasting your time with your religion. I think you people are very disturbed.
DO NOT RESPOND. OR I WILL BE FORCED TO COMMENT AGAIN. I CANNOT LEAVE THIS WEBSITE WITH THE LAST COMMENT BEING ABOUT ME BEING TORTURED!
I used to cut very deep wounds with a knife on myself for the Almighty. I have been through quite enough personal suffering and sacrifice for religion, thank-you very much. Despite being such a hardcore worshiper and believer life was still troubling. I got no response from God despite this and became an atheist.
That is all. Now let me leave in peace by respecting my wish to have no “Burn in Hell” comment following this. If there is, I WILL post again.
If you wish to avoid this, just ignore me and don’t talk back. Thank-you.
Bye, hopefully. That is if you DO NOT respond. I’ve had my last say. I’m satisfied. So please have no negative comment follow my exit.
blueollie said
467: having to have the last word is very childish. I am ashamed of you; then again who would ever think any more of a good for nothing atheist anyway.
Yes, you will burn, simmer and roast; think of it as an eternal barbecue where you are being treated as the main course.
Not only that, but the Righteous (i. e., Conservative Christian Republicans) will be in Heaven, delighting in your torment.
Free Child Of The Universe said
*Tormented sigh*. I’m not going to argue about maturity here because the debate always transcends into a insulting shouting match between the two opposing parties.
Try cutting yourself as penance for God. Its the most brutal, horrific, traumatizing experience other than the death of a loved one. The belief behind this bloody ritual is the same as the ensuing purification after confession. Honestly, it was my own idea. Fervent prayer failed to change anything…
The blood actually streams down in red rivers. I had to lick it repeatedly just to continue plunging the knife deeper into my skin. The designs I carved were all crosses. (Very intricate and detailed ones, I may add. I’m quite a talented artist.) I literally bear the Lord’s mark. It is there forever. After the nasty secret deed was finished, it hurt to just move, many times all I could do was lie down or sit still while the throbbing intensified and continued. It even hurt to walk…
They are faded now and only visible if you look closely. Thus my own family doesn’t know of my dark secret…
I stopped when I finally acknowledged God wasn’t listening to my pleas for salvation. After awhile I came to the conclusion God ignored me because God didn’t actually exist. I realized that this “God” character was only my imagination and a manifestation of my self loathing…
I’ve come a long way from I wreck that I was. I’m still under 18. Think about it. Spare me some pity would you. If I had continued being religious, suffering for God’s love would have eventually initiated my own death. I’m quite serious. I had suicidal tendencies. That’s not an exaggeration. Would you die for God?
Can you understand why I want to leave this website peacefully without any remarks about hell. Death scares me now that I’ve embraced atheism. Before I thought I would find my heaven. Its hard for me to acknowledge how eager for death and joining God I was…
Leave my abused heart alone, already.
I’m quite certain all of you are sadistic. Why else would you enjoy pointing your fingers and laughing at the people in hell? This is your greatest fantasy…
That’s why I’m sure all of you are quite immune to the damage religion caused me and will never sympathize with me. The proof of this is in Blueollie’s earlier statement.
I said earlier 452: “I don’t approve of Christianity being used as a mask for fulfilling sadistic, tortuous desires.”
Blueollie: 1. No one cares what you approve of or not.
You just admitted your own fetish… Again, Blueollie has interpreted religion differently such as I did from modern mainstream Christianity.
I’m becoming very agitated from staying here but I really cannot tolerate being told to burn in hell after what I have been through. I have been at rock bottom before, sunk in deep depression. Atheism keeps me afloat while religion is my lethal anchor.
Now let me have my peace already. Lay off the burning in hell. I have actually burned before as well. In between cutting I have taken a barbacue lighter to my skin and willed my hand to keep the flame touching my skin for minutes…
Honestly, this is very painful to recall these nightmarish memories. I have left God alone. Please do the same to me and stop the comments…
Please…
I want to leave this website already, its really scaring me.
Again, this is not a parody of any sort. So stop telling me to roast and LET ME LEAVE!
Free Child Of The Universe said
Whatever. Obviously your people are beastly and demonic. I am going make the mature decision and leave of my own accord. I have bravely risen above the cruelty of your comments…
Again, I plead for you to reconsider the atrocity of your hellish insults. Honestly, you have no idea how tormenting that place has been in my past nightmares.
I am happy to be rid of the futile self hate and destructive dogma of religion. Praise the cosmos! Its liberating to be atheist and free!
I’m happy again and life is well and structured again.
Insult me if you want you inhuman monsters. But no matter what you may say and do, you’re never going to match up to my former God devotion. Ha. Ha.
In fact the most devoted religion is extreme Islam where jihad martyr suicides are the norm. Why wouldn’t God accept his biggest fans and groupies instead of you?
Ha. God is exactly how Richard Dawkins described him. Well except to my “fuzzy blanket of good feelings”, Christian friends. But they don’t take the old testament seriously so again their morality is self decided.
Bye forever! Really. I stopped caring. Obviously there is no reasoning with you. I desperately wish ignorant people like you would refrain from hell death threats. No matter.
Richard Dawkins is my role model. Most beneficial to modern society.
I’m leaving feeling a lot better about myself. I still have faith in humanity because I’m certain if WWIII commenced then people such as yourselves would abandon their silly hatred and rely on others for survival.
Bye. =) If I burn in hell then its only because I’ll be roasting marshmallows in celebration!
Tiffany Wellsley said
Go, already!
blueollie said
470: Richard Dawkins is your role model? I don’t see him filling up this board with moronic drivel.
Tiffany Wellsley said
Blueollie,
I love Richard Dawkins. When I was a little girl, I used to love to watch him swindle people at cards, pick locks on safes and generally make Colonel Klink’s life miserable. He was clearly the funniest, and smartest, celebrity on “Match Game,” and he was the best host “Family Feud” ever had. I would love to hear what he doing these days. He’s undoubtedly on the “D” list of celebrities by now, but perhaps he could return to some late night show on the Game Channel network.
Tiffany
P.S. Do you have any idea why the Arab keeps referring to “Adam Lambert” as “Adam Idol”?
blueollie said
Sister Tiffany: I remember Hogan’s Heroes and Match Game so well; because my mind went through some damage during my “pre saved” time I remember his name as Richard Dawson.
But never mind; he was always the one that you wanted to partner up with during the last match where the individual had a chance to go for the biggest prize.
And yes, he sure showed that monocle wearing Kraut a thing or two, didn’t he? (even if he was a Brit)
As far as our Arab troll: I honestly don’t know.
Tiffany Wellsley said
Blueollie,
How silly of me. Of course, the character of whom I spoke was Richard Dawkins. But then, who the heck is “Richard Dawkins.” I’m a master of TIVO and I must admit that I’ve never seen his show. What kind of series did he have?
Tiffany
Free Child Of The Universe said
I’ll answer your question. He is the author of “The God Delusion”, “The Watchmaker”, “The Origin of Life”, and many other books on evolution and criticizing organized religion. I’m surprised you don’t know him because on Dawkins.net many atheists have laughed at this site and boo-booed it. He is the leader of the atheist revolution…
Do you people live under rocks or something? How can you attack the atheists without even knowing who their leaders are?
Sorry for interrupting your chat but I wanted to answer your question correctly.
Free Child Of The Universe said
He is also a famous biologist, thus he knows all the scientific facts concerning evolution.
MODERATOR’S NOTE: Saying “scientific facts” in regard to evolution is like saying “godly talent” in regard to Paris Hilton!
Tiffany Wellsley said
Child(like),
I thought you had left. You have said repeatedly that you are going, but you can’t. Frankly, I’m not surprised. You’re driven to the Lord and can’t wrestle free from the desire to be with Him. It is only a matter of time before you accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior. I’m sure that’s why you can’t leave our site. Praise God!
Tiffany
Free Child Of The Universe said
The difference being Richard Dawkins has for many years excessively studied evolution to the highest extent, (a feat that few have accomplished), and Paris Hilton has in all likely hood has never taken acting classes. Thus their respective skill levels have a chasm of practice between them.
If you want to destroy the enemy you must research them and study their habits. None of you have actually taken evolution in school, (I have), or bothered to find out about new anti religious videos, books, leaders, etc.
Whereas I on the other hand have read the bible repeatedly, attended church and Sunday school, listened to gospel and Christian rock, been baptized, celebrated the Christian holidays the traditional way, etc…
Thus I can turn my back on religion knowing exactly what I am turning my back against whereas none of you have any clue about modern atheism.
You’re blindly attacking us without any sense of direction. Why don’t you research your enemy? I know about Catholicism etc.
I was even going to take the World Religions class in school but it was canceled due to lack of interest. Ha. Ha. Nobody seems to care anymore.
Now do me a favor and look up Richard Dawkins if you are going to attack atheists because in all fairness I have bothered to have taken my time learning about religion.
[Moderator's note: We're not about to look up "Richard Dawkins, any more than we intend to access Satan's website.]
Free Child Of The Universe said
No I can’t leave because I am practicing my debating and writing skills here. [Give it up. If you left a post every five minutes, 24/7, you would still have the communicative skills of a retard.] This is also semi-amusing and I am studying you holy rollers.
Quite frankly, I feel like I’m visiting the zoo and I like looking at the caged animals. [That is hardly surprising, since the only intimate partners you have ever had were probably in the same category.] Only in this case their communication skills are consist of “praise the lord,” and “atheists suck”, and nothing else. [Everyone here knows that this site consists of much more than those words. Why undermine your credibility in that manner?]
Really this holds the same fascination to me as poking an anthill with a stick and watching them scurry about in panic. [What a surprise that hurting or disrupting others would be a pastime of yours.]
(Not that I do that anymore, the last time I did was when I was ten. [You mean two years ago?])
It just gives me that feeling of nostalgia when I push your buttons. [I think the term you're searching for is "sadism." Of course, we get a good laugh at each of your posts, so the effect you're hoping for doesn't occur. LOL!]
Not that it was my original intention of course. I entered with good ones but they’ve since turned sour. [Your intentions have always been self-centered, and undoubtedly were before you first visited.]
I keep leaving but then someone says something completely ignorant, (who is Richard Dawkins) [forgive Tiffany for not knowing a famous atheist; she probably doesn't know a lot of famous Moonies or famous voodoo leaders either], or something offensive, (burn in hell) [No one has wished you will burn in hell; we have simply stated the fact that you will], and I am compelled to return. [You aren't compelled to return. You're just not a real man and therefore can't keep your word. Well, no surprise there.]
Remember, God doesn’t want me back here. I’ve told you about my flesh wounds. [Apparently, some of them were in the brain.] If I went back to religion I’d most likely actually die. [May we give you a ride to church...now?!]
Free Child Of The Universe said
Why is the Lord a he? Shouldn’t it have no genetilia because sex is considered sin? I always envisioned the Lord as a spiritual body with no actual sex organs. They are unnecessary.
Its only called a he because when Christianity began men held more power over the oppressed female gender.
Its the little things like this that aggravate me.
God did not have actual coitus with Mary in the physical sense for Jesus’s birth.
WHY THE HE?????
Tiffany Wellsley said
Child(ish),
I think the moderator effectively handled your earlier posts. This one reveals even more ignorance than the others. The Bible says God made Adam in His own image. He created woman later, solely because Adam did not find a suitable mate among the animals. Essentially, God created woman because Adam was lonely. But God is a man. The Bible makes that clear. (And I’m speaking of the beginning of the Bible, several thousand years before Jesus was born.)
Tiffany
blueollie said
481: you are a liar. You’d said that you’d leave. Why haven’t you?
Ok, as far as Richard Dawkins: he made his fame by doing evolutionary “research” (snicker); now his “scientific research” days are behind him and he mostly picks fights with Muslims (who would be good Republicans if we could get them to worship Jesus and back trickle down economics)
and he “debates” wheezing old costumed “pseduo-Christians”.
What a travesty.
I admit that I find stuff to dislike about Ann Coulter but remember this quote of hers:
Free Child Of The Universe said
To clear the air:
Moderator, I am female as I have mentioned in an earlier post. [If you're female, you are the butchest bull dyke to have walked God's green earth.] Do not refer to me as the other gender. [Given the tenor of your posts, you are the "other gender" -- something other than male or female, possibly "she-male."]
I know all about the “in his image part,” but I did not take it literally [Your failure to believe the literal Word of God has been, and will continue to be, your undoing.] because in his image would not be exact. Again God has no need for a you no what and thus is technically genderless. [There are a number of organs we have no need for, like the appendix and the gall bladder. What's your point?] Unless you actually think that God needs one…[God needs nothing, but that doesn't mean He has nothing.]
The only physical division between the two genders is sex organs. [Please! The Bible describes women as inferior, and thus subsurvient, to men in countless places, particularly in the New Testament.] This train of thought just lead me to believe that God is simply God, and not an actual male. [Try not to have any more trains of thought. They really aren't productive for you, lezzie.]
No I did not poke the ants because of sadist tendencies. [Please! You're a bull dyke!] I was contemplating God’s existence and wondering about how I must have appeared to them as such. In that moment I was God to them because I controlled whether or not they lived or died. [Pretending you are God? Yet another act of blasphemy that ensures your eternal demise.]
It was then I thought that God looks down at us the same way I looked down on the ants. I certainly could not differentiate between the millions of ants. [By contrast, God differentiates among billions of us. That is how He is able to determine who are the ones like you who will go to hell and who are the True Christians who will go to heaven.]
And yes, everyone does hold some sadistic tendencies. [Speak for yourself.] Me included [no surprise there], we’re all human aren’t we? [Not God.] The difference being I don’t look forward to watching horror films like Saw where people are brutally tortured. [Of course, you don't, since you are destined to be one of the victims.]
Yet you all do with your hell… I have never had any intimate partners because I have a sex phobia caused by religion. [Oh, for goodness' sake, be honest. If you haven't had any "intimate partners," it is because you're too ashamed to acknowledge your lesbians tendencies. (Or perhaps you're too butch for even the most feminine of lipstick lesbos to tolerate.)]
The whole concept of keeping yourself “pure” and an innocent virgin. No premarital sex remember? Unless you wish to be known as a harlot and worthy of death. Sexual thoughts still shame me. I’m still coming to grasp with them. [Please don't. If you are actually heterosexual (giggles), it would be cruel for you to bring offspring into the world (unless you agree to give the child up for adoption before it encounters you). In fact, I'm surprised someone who knows you hasn't obtained an court injunction against you reproducing.]
I broke out of my zoo [undoubtedly, from the baboon exhibit]. Religion was my cage. My psyche is damaged as you have pointed out but through no fault of my own. [Your posts clearly reveal your damaged psyche, but don't blame religion. Each of us is responsible for making the most out of our lives. Having Jesus in one's heart, of course, makes that easier.]
I have vowed to myself to actually keep my word this time. [I don't believe it. You are a liar and someone who consistently breaks promises. You are totally self-centered, so I have no doubt that, despite your umpteenth announcement that you are leaving, you'll be back, probably within a week.] I’m happy to have entertained you so much, its true that I wasn’t expecting that response. [No one can control that which makes him laugh.] Oh well.
Tiffany I’m sorry, I will never accept Jesus Christ as my personal savior so there’s one less mark in your tally of converts. I just don’t want to engage in destructive behavior again. Again, God was always too demanding of me and I feel crazy when I pray for help when I’m in deep trouble and nothing comes out of it. I feel as if I’m talking to only myself and I’ve realized that this is because no godly presence is actually there. [Actually, the better explanation is that you are insane and frequently speak to yourself.]
I’ve found that asking people to help me is more effective. [A welfare bum. Why am I not surprised?]
Its puzzling that you people actually feel a response in prayer, (I never did), I’ll never know the truth of that mystery. [You weren't sincere. The Lord can smell a faker a mile away.]
I’m officially taking my vow of silence from here onwards. [If only we could believe that, but you are not a person of your word, so we can't.] My dignity has been demolished [It was like shooting fish in a barrel], I have nothing here left to lose [Then go!]. I ended up confessing my darkest secret, acting childish and making snotty remarks. [Indeed!]
It has been, however, an unforgettable experience which albeit not spiritual, (I don’t believe in those), has left an impression on me. [And if you'd stayed much longer, one of us might have left an impression on your face.]
Bye and I guess thank you? [You're welcome.] (I don’t really understand why I put that, maybe out of common courtesy? [I doubt that. You've shown no aptitude in that regard.]) For my time spent here. I’m just going to go join the other atheists now and leave this side alone. [Awesome. The Lord's slaughter will be a lot easier if many of you are in the same place.]
I am 100% atheist so I don’t want any remarks saying otherwise after my departure. [Rug muncher, we have no doubt about that. Most of you muff divers are.] I have known sneaky people who have twisted my words around. [Most of the people you hang around with are probably that sneaky.]
I’m going to go finish living my one and only life the best I can. [As I said earlier, don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.]
Free Child Of The Universe said
To clear the air AGAIN:
Um no that’s again not true. I wear ALOT of makeup and have alot of guys ask me out. Again though, you cannot seem to understand that for the longest time I held such contempt for people who engaged in those behaviors. I don’t like the female body in that way at all. I just believed in premarital sex, DUH!
Seriously, I love men and their muscles etc. I have fantasies about that of course. I’m just afraid of being used and thrown away like countless people I know.
Can’t you understand that as a good Christian girl Mary was my former role model? I had to be pure and whatnot. I hated harlots with a vengeance the same way you hate gays.
Okay! Do not make those kinds of accusations. The “tenor” of my articles is not male. If you were implying they were masculine, look again. Many of my posts are of me when I’m in severe pain. According to you crying out is not masculine.
Just had to clear up that statement.
[Moderator's note: Let me see if I understand your position. You take offense at being called a lesbian because, in reality, you're just an insatiable slut. Is that about right?]
Free Child Of The Universe said
I was never a faker. I physically mutilated myself for my religion. [Your insanity is not our concern.] It does not get any holier and self righteous than that. [It is beyond question that you're self-righteous.] I denied myself happiness to appease God. [That's curious. The rest of secure happiness because of our relationship with God.] I couldn’t be in a relationship because I was saving my purity. [The solution is to get married, you stupid slut.]
Yes; anyone would feel crazy begging God to make the depression go away. [If you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, the depression would have gone away.] Also, prayer said aloud does feel like you’re talking to yourself when there is no response… When you’re on your knees and begging for God to respond while the blood streams down your legs, you are not a faker. [Seriously, you need professional help that we are not equipped to provide.]
I’m glad I no longer am. But how can you say I was after hearing of my former devotion? [Please seek professional help. We're just a few Christians who get together on a blog. We are not prepared to handle your deep-rooted mental problems. Don't blame them on God. They are a part of your psyche and won't go away simply because you reject the Lord. You're a real sicko! Please, get some help! The first order of business, for your sake and ours, is for you to LEAVE THIS PLACE!]
Free Child Of The Universe said
“As I said earlier, don’t let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.”
What does that even mean? Split me into what? A sinner? I really don’t understand this.
Please explain.
[It means don't let the door hit you in the rear end AS YOU LEAVE!]
Free Child Of The Universe said
I am not a slut, (I used the word harlot because that is inappropriate), and am still a virgin. However, nobody waits for marriage anymore. That’s the simple truth.
Free Child Of The Universe said
Yes, actually surprisingly my mental problems did go away after rejecting the Lord and I became an honor student again. I’m closer to my family… The list goes on…
=)
Tiffany Wellsley said
Child,
Are you really a child? Are you a minor? If so, you have no business being here. This board’s terms of service clearly specify that the site is for adult Christians only. I am not going to criticize or condemn a minor. That is something for your parents to do. Please leave. You are not supposed to be here.
Tiffany
Alien said
[obscenity deleted] THIS [obscenity deleted] WEBSITE FOR DISCARDING MY [nonsense removed]!
Alien said
Lo siento. Desatende por favor el commentario arriba de este comentario. Yo estoy llegando a ser un bilinguo.
[Moderator's note: Devil-speak is not allowed on this board. Given your e-mail name (which will not be published), it is obvious that you are a homo. Your kind is not welcome here.]
Free Child Of The Universe said
Alien was speaking spanish.
Free Child Of The Universe said
Sorry for commenting. Tiffany. But honestly, I’m almost 17. I have a drivers. I’ll be graduating in a year. I already feel grown up. The world and its authority figures aren’t as lenient on me anymore. I called myself free child only because compared to the age of the earth, time, universe etc. we are children, also we all never truly mature completely.
I’m curious as to what you said Alien… *sighs* I was just checking to see if anyone else left comments. My guess was that people were losing interest or my posts scared potential commentors away, (they are pretty psychotic and intense). I come back every few days to see if new comments are posted. Don’t look too deep into it. It’s a little quirk is all. No conversion or anything here.
When I come here its to remind myself of the hate and evil in the world. I need to remember that not all religious people are kindly. Visiting here is a little pinch in the ribs to stay aware of how the other side thinks. I also feel more sane. lol. It relieves me that my heart isn’t big enough to hold this much hate. Caution, however, any atheist observers. Avoid absorbing the hate held in this site while browsing. lol.
P.S. Hypothetical Ethical question for the Christians on this site. Imagine you are dying from painful cancer that has zero chance of recovery that would take a long period of time to run tis course… Is it an absolute sin to commit suicide? Would your God still banish you to the abyss?
My former pastor said no. Then again, I was a “faux Christian.” Not really, but that’s what Blueollie called me. I don’t need to remind anyone of my former devotion. I want to forget about that already. I guess I just wasn’t finished admitting that and talking about it. You don’t ever completely recover from that trauma. Oh well.
Alien please repost in appropriate language that way I can read your comment. I translated your other one so its no big deal if its not in English. Again, I just want to read comments but nothing else has shown up in such a long time that I will need to find another article such as this to read comments. Reading comments is my strange little hobby. I also read almost the whole newspaper everyday etc.
Have a great day. =) That actually was not sarcasm. I’m feeling rather chipper.
Oh, sorry, anther question. Do the believers on this site hold those “God loves dead soldiers”, or “God Hates Fags”, protests? When I saw that happen on T.V. I ALMOST couldn’t believe it. Just curious on how serious your vengeance is. I’m rather paranoid about it… Those protests may become violent…
Okay. I just scared myself into keeping an eye on this site longer. I like to be knowledgeable on organizations such as this in case it interferes with my life. I doubt it will affect me in Canada, however. Or do you have branches of the shared faith set up here too?
Free Child Of The Universe said
Looked at all of this site…
Curse of the ham? Retarded Obama? Okay…
I have determined that no terror acts are being planned. Just swapping of religious conspiracy theories, racism, FYI (Mexicans are not bestiality starved freaks), etc.
I feel silly for even haven bothered to have posted here. Just a little peeved that I wasted my time here.
I’m going to go monitor Jew Watch instead. I want to see how they portray Jewish people. I wish I had access to the Chinese internet. I’d love to know what propaganda they’re being fed.
Anything else but this silliness to occupy my interests. This is rather harmless, not the terror I made it out to be. I over exaggerated. The underlying hate remains yet its carriers only talk big.
Oh well. It was funny. My only regret is I wish didn’t mention my cutting…
My numerous flesh crosses give me a free pass to heaven if it did exist, (which I doubt). So its all fine and dandy.
blueollie said
495: finally! Now spend some time walking around in flip flops while screaming on your cell phone and doing the other “important” things that your friends do.
Alien said
For your information Moderator, I’m a Christian, I have 40,000 wives, all of them bonita senoritas, and “queer” has other meanings besides gay. It can also mean astonishing, which means amazing!
Tiffany Wellsley said
Alien,
I’ve monitored some of your posts. Anyone with a brain and human experiences can tell you’re a homosexual. You may have slept with 40,000 people who long to be wives, but they were all men. Even the cheapest “gaydar” could ferret you out of a crowd instantly.
Tiffany
Free Child Of The Universe said
Petty accusations on your account Tiffany. Don’t jump the gun so fast. You were wrong about my gender and sexual preference. Claiming to have a gaydar is stupid. Usually it doesn’t work and leads to misunderstanding. I doubt you can actually tell a gay person apart except from the extremely effeminate examples.
You do not see these people in real life so why are you so confident in your hypothesis? If he really was gay then I doubt he would be hiding his identity on the internet on a site where he is virtually unknown. He would rather flaunt it and use it to annoy you.
If he is gay then so what? Unless he admits it you have no proof other than your flawed assumptions. Accuracy is not achieved by pointing the fag finger at threatening characters.
P.S. This may be a bonus in your day but the nice, polite, friendly Christian girl in my art class really shocked me. Despite being my friend for about two years it was only now she accidentally revealed her true thoughts…
She thinks I’m damned to hell for atheism. I really expected better from her seeing as she is very “tolerant”, and “forgiving”, and a promoter of “peace”.
I feel very peeved that she pretended to be my friend. I don’t need false friends. I asked her about hell comparing it to the SAW movies again. It was only then she looked apologetic and compassionate after she mulled it over. But she turned self righteous again and said I’m sorry you’re unsaved…
This shocker after TWO nice years. Honestly, what is even the point of befriending a person you believe deserves to be stabbed 9999999999 billion times repeatedly or more every nanosecond or more for eternity? If conversion doesn’t happen after a few months, I think its humane to tell your “friend” what you really think of them.
I wasted two years being friends with this person now I know better and she is merely an accquaintance. I don’t bother associating with her.
I just thought it would brighten your day knowing someone damned me to hell…
I think I prefer your full frontal attack than this sneaky trickery. I still have other Christian friends but they are more of the “heaven is for all good people”, motto which is fine by me.
Tiffany Wellsley said
Child,
I’m having a touch of insomnia tonight, and I must say that reading your post almost cured it. First, why in the world should I care about your problems with “friends”? You’re a hellbound atheist. How many friends do you think you’re going to have in the hereafter, as the flesh roasts from your bones and demons stab you with pitchforks while others sodomize you, 24/7? Plus, you people don’t have true friends because you don’t have Jesus in your hearts. At most, you have acquaintances who satisfy your hedonistic interests in some way.
Furthermore, your “friend” didn’t damn you to hell. God did. Finally, your so-called “Christian friends” are nothing of the sort. Jesus expressly said that Christians aren’t to sully themselves by hanging out with unsaved trash (2 John 1:9-11; 2 Corinthians 6:14-17).
If you had any compassion at all, you’d dissociate from the purported “Christians” so they aren’t in violation of God’s edicts and don’t wind up in the same horrendous place where you’re going to spend eternity. Or better yet, put away your violin, stop wallowing in self-pity and get right with God.
Tiffany
Free Child Of The Universe said
Your group is very determined to make everyone miserable isn’t it?
I only have one life I’m just as determined to pursue my own happiness and contribute to the well being of society. I befriend people without judging them based on their religious or lack of religious beliefs. Being social is rewarding and adds to my happiness.
I value people without God blocking my perspective so I would argue that I cherish my friends contrary to your belief that I accept them as being merely pawns and accquaintances with soulless lil ol’ me. I most likely cherish them more than you based on my love for people without God’s shadowing interference of who I am able to befriend and must hate for my own personal salvation.
I have good reasons for being atheist.
I challenge you to give me actual scientific proof of God’s existence.
Note: Proof of the power of prayer is not valid, (many actual studies of this proved it made little difference), neither is proof of personal salvation, (warm and fuzzy feelings), these are the same as a child’s when he/she thinks the tooth fairy/easter bunny/Santa Claus is coming. The explanation of the bible doesn’t count either. (Its man made, duh! There is also the scripture of Judas, missing pages of the original bible were also found, (I bet you didn’t know about that). Needless to say the dates of Jesus are a bit weird. (They talk about him only after he’s been dead for a long time this is proven after you compare his mentioning to the date of his birth.) How do you know the men didn’t lie? You can’t really prove they didn’t. It really was just the propaganda of that time era.
What other argument do you have left for God’s existence? I would really be interested because whenever I ask this question all I get in return is a blank stare, some rambling, or a just because answer.
I’m glad to say that I don’t promote hostility like your group does. Life would be better if we treated each other as equals. Ex: Bible is racist, (story of Cain), also supports slavery etc…
Who is making the world better now? Oh wait, that doesn’t acually matter to you because this life is only a test of your faith eh? Well, alrighty then. Start another bloody crusade and kill all the infidels because they “don’t matter”.
If there was a God up there I doubt it would care. It has ceased caring for about 2009 years when it decided it would stop reminding us of its prescene, stop sending us prophets, god children etc.
The only thing people label as God’s interference now are simply natural diasters such as the tsunami. That again is stupid because again natural diasters are best understood by scientists who have explained these phenomenoms. Tsunamis etc. are not sentinent God sent beings who purposely hurt us. Neither are they cradled in God’s justice-smiting hands to purposely destroy us.
Jeepers, WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE?
I would love to play violin. I should take that up while I am being happy, caring and tolerant and NOT wallowing in self pity.
I was in self pity when I was religeous and believed I was a useless sinner, who would always be one, (original sin remember?), thought I was unworthy of Almighty God’s love, and felt inferior.
I also was very depressed, (you don’t even want to know how much it was that terrifying), and God didn’t help me out of it, I only got help when my best friend noticed and we had a heart to heart.
This is why I rely and support people, God didn’t do nothing for me.
Do you realize that your heaven is very small? If I had to make a comparison a small town would be heaven and hell would be billions of cities the size of Tokyo many of the “sinners” would have committed petty sins not worth an eternity of ceaseless torment.
By your logic, Hitler, (who was Christian and believed in killing infidels, (Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, etc.) in God’s holy name and will should be a saint and you would probably make him one if it weren’t for the great hatred against him shared by the rest of the world.
This principle also applies for other tyrant leaders who were active in their Christian faith. Pope Urban II the starter of the crusade is also in heaven along with all the crusaders who slaughtered (baby, handicapped, children, disabled, innocent families, all considered infidels), in a brutal and violent fashion. They also raped, maimed, amputated these people.
No I would rather earn my right to live by being good for my entire existence as opposed to using the get out of jail free card of a deathbed conversion/repentance which is extremely popular to rapists and murderers on death row.
Please answer my question as to where is your SCIENTIFIC evidence of God by the way. I await your response.
Tiffany Wellsley said
Child,
I tried very hard to read your interminable screed, really, I did. But after finishing what barely passed for a sentence, I recognized that every word was coming straight from Satan’s lips. So, I rearranged the flowers in my breakfast nook instead.
Tiffany
P.S. I am a busy woman. If I’m going to read a tome, the book will have to be written by someone a lot smarter than you. If you want answers to questions, leave a short, succint post so the number of errors to which we’re exposed is minimized and we can read it and respond within a minute.
Free Child Of The Universe said
Alright fine. Your denial prevents you from analyzing my position.
Someone of your intelligance should have been perfectly capable of reading and understanding my earlier post. As for comparing to a tome, that is a major mistake.
I have read many lengthy novels before, that post is considerably shorter and easier to understand. I even cut it into many short and sweet paragraph breaks, (more than necessary), so that the transition of thoughts would be easy to trace. This effect gives the post the illusion of it being grand and verbose. If you wish I may condense the posts for you by limiting the number of paragraph breaks.
Anyways. I ask of you to answer the same question I had earlier.
What is your scientific evidence of God?
The criteria for this is:
1)Power of prayer is not a legitimate answers
2)Warm fuzzy feelings are not legitimate answers
3)God of Gaps reasoning is not legitimate answers
4)Bible is 100% true is not a legitimate answer
If this is too hard for you to answer without these crutches then answer by using them. If you had bothered to have read my earlier post you would have understood my reasoning as to why 1),2),4) are illegitimate answers, I forgot to include 3) previously.
I challenge you to answer my question.
Why? I mentioned earlier every time I ask a Christian this question they either
1)stare blankly
2)ramble quietly to themselves
3)Use just because as a legitimate answer
If you answer, “there is no scientific proof” of God, that is also fine. I would like to see why you still continue to believe in him.
I hope you did not stop at the first few sentences and stop reading like you did before. I assure you I do not speak Satan’s words or am possessed because my opinion greatly differentiates from his views as expressed in the bible.
I am all for equality etc. unlike his anarchy, violence etc.
I hope I receive an answer this time round. Thank you in advance should you respond.
Free Child Of The Universe said
I’m sorry; I truly am that my writing skills are not up to par. I’m still in the early stages of the communications learning process. I haven’t written my English diploma yet. My writing still needs correcting.
I also have the bad habit of lengthening a short response, which explains your irritation. I read and write very fast so I haven’t noticed this problem until recently. Sorry for wasting an unnecessary amount of your time.
Tiffany Wellsley said
Child,
Apology accepted.
Tiffany
Free Child Of The Universe said
Um are you even going to answer my question though?
What is your scientific evidence of God?
Or in simpler terms what is your evidence of God?
I’ve made two lengthy posts dedicated to asking this. Please answer. I’d like to hear your opinion on the matter.
B. Russell said
A person should be judged by their actions, not their beliefs.
Tiffany Wellsley said
Mr. Russell,
As my friend, Blueollie would say, a person should be judged by his grammar as well. “Person” is a singular noun, hence the term, “their,” is not appropriate in either place in your single sentence.
Child,
You have become little more than a pedantic gadfly. Before I outline my evidence, let me ask you: What is your theory of the creation of the universe? The Big Bang theory? What physical evidence do you have of a big bang (and I’m talking about the scientific theory and not what you undoubtedly receive from colored men on Saturday nights)?
The answer is that there is no evidence of the Big Bang. It is just a theory. And here’s my additional problem with it: what created the Big Bang? If the Big Bang was the beginning of everything, and nothing preceded the Big Bang, there couldn’t have been anything to cause a Big Bang. Do you not see the absolute inanity of what you moronic atheists believe?
Here is my physical evidence of God: a beautiful sunset over the ocean near Laguna Niguel, the gorgeous white sand of the beaches on Paradise Island in the Bahamas, the incredible wildlife of the Galapagos Islands, the majesty of the Grand Canyon, the color scheme of the Painted Desert, the grand nature of Swiss Alps, the diversity of life in the Brazilian Rainforest, the amazing sea life of the Great Barrier Reef, to name but a few. And I haven’t even spoken of incredible human interaction and love. As far as I’m concerned, it is incomprehensible that all of this majesty, beauty and emotion is purely the the product of chance. And anyone who does believe that is someone who probably expects to win the lottery. You will never lead me — or anyone truly rational — to believe the beauty of the world came from some random explosion in space.
Now, enough of your nonsense. I will not be diverted down rabbit trails by your silly inquiries.
Tiffany
Free Child Of The Universe said
I will begin with what I have deemed less offensive and progress from there because it is likely you will see a word you disagree with, (evolution or so), and not bother to finish reading and this greatly frustrates me. Could you at least finish reading before you call me a moronic atheist? In all fairness I read every one of your words and have read all of the comments offensive or not. You cannot critique something you haven’t read, that is something every teacher, intellectual, professor, educated person agrees to.
Why don’t you kindly and honestly follow their example?
The Big Bang was not an explosion. I don’t know all of the details concerning this scientific theory because I am scheduled to study it later and not in the present time. What I do know of the Big Bang is limited to T.V. educational programs such as NOVA, Discovery channel, PBS etc. and some presentations of it in school. Probably more than what you have studied of it else wise you wouldn’t refer to it as an explosion. From what I do know I can assure you it is not a stupid explosion, (at least nothing like BANG! Poof! Life is here ta-da! It is not a magic trick.) It is quite complex creation of sorts and involves a lot of physics etc. The point is scientists are still in the process of discovering what made the Big Bang occur.
If you are that skeptical research it yourself, I am just as busy as you with my final exams coming up and all. Or just ask an expert on the matter.
The beauty of the world? Yes that is all fine and dandy there are many beautiful things we witness everyday. If you are going to however, going to use “beauty” as proof you have to take into consideration all the horrible things as well such as disease, parasites, still births, genetic deformations, mosquitoes etc.
As far as love is concerned, scientists have already and are still continuing to study the human brain and its functions. Love can be scientifically explained as being high on endorphins, there are also chemical reactions that take place which trigger the “lovey dovey” feelings. There is more to this if you are interested you can too study the human brain and find out what makes us tick.
Okay, its progress if you have read up until here. Now the going gets bumpy and I predict you will discontinue and stick out your tongue at me afterwards insulting me.
Are you racist?
What colored men on Saturday nights? Are you referring to the news? The news people are of all skin colors, white included.
Why would advice from colored people be “bad.” The term “colored people” itself is outdated and commonly found in novels belonging to a past racist time era such as Gone with the wind. Also are you subtlety implying that the white race is superior to all other skin tones? That is Nazism through and through.
Again, HUH? What in goodness sake are you referring to in that confusing statement?
Also referring to me as a a MORONIC atheist or pesky gadfly is quite immature for someone of your age group. I have avoided calling you a MORONIC Christian or pesky gadfly, (apology if I did in fact call you moronic or something of the sort I will reread my past posts later.)
As for the miracle of life? Well again to find this out you have to keep going back in time. I can’t say at this point that God didn’t create something because of the God in the gaps theory, yet the God of the Gaps theory shrinks when each new gap is discovered.
Ex: Lightning is the work of Satan! (An ancient belief) Benjamen Franklin, (Lightning is electric static). Invents lightning rods. Churches condemn the said rods, blaming Satan and witches for churches with tall spires being struck down instead of say “sinful” taverns. Finally churches accept lightning rods and the whole spiritual aspect of lightning is refuted and logic regins supreme. Satan can no longer be blamed for lightning.
With that being said, the oldest & transitional fossils, (which were NOT planted in the ground), show that evolution has a high probality, (no that’s being generous), a complete likelyhood of being correct.
To adapt to modern society many Christians say God made evolution disregarding the belief we are in his image 100% They will instead say it was pre-planned we would take his image in a matter of time.
Then who is to say we are in his image in this present time? Lol.
The point is nothing is 100% but I choose to base my beliefs on probability not fear of some afterlife. I reject the same number of Gods as you do ex: Osiris, Zeus, Mohammed, Aphrodite, Thor etc. I just include one more that is the male Christian God Yahweh.
He often contradicts himself and orders people such as yourself to hate atheists like me. Again I don’t like all of this hatred, I will not just “deal with it”, if there is no need for it. Why? Because the whole world has been religeously divided and this in turn has led to centuries of conflict between warring groups over religeous land, (Jeruselum), and terroism. September 11th anybody? Jews, Muslims and Christians all worship the same God, (male Yahweh), how come they cannot get along if they favor the said God differently? (That being said Muslims are the most devoted and pray 5 or more times a day, for extended periods of time on their knees.)
Even Blueollie admired their fortitude.
Thank you for your consideration if you have read this. If you have not then I am rather ashamed of your cowardice. Feel free to rant and rave now.
I apologize for not being thorough on the Big Bang but that would take many pages and I would need to research it further, (again I am taking classes on this next year). In the meantime you should ask experts or just watch the same scientific T.V. programming as I did for further clarification, (I watched them quite some time ago that is why I am vague on the topic.)
As for evolution, I doubt your mind would even consider it as a possibility even with the mentioned modern Christian adaptation to consider it free of bias.
If I question your ethics it is because I do not tolerate racism, (this is worse than bigotry or anything of the sort, it is evil.)
Also it everything you believe in still puzzles me because there are too many contradictory examples. Telling me to ask a priest for clarification has never worked for me they are senile and the younger ones tell me its over my head and dismiss me.
Questioning is sort of taboo if it discomforts them. I have come to realize that questioning anywhere is taboo to the religious psyche.
I’ll stop questioning you now because I have obviously frazzled you and your nerves and any more would make your brain implode from an over lode of rejection of free thought. I would also be insulted again and that behavior is growing quite annoying.
Tiffany Wellsley said
Child,
You must be out of your mind if you think I (or anyone who has a life) is going to read that tome of a response. Frankly, it is inconsiderate and arrogant of you to think you can waste our time with that much writing. Not only is a post like that the product of extreme rudeness and lack of breeding, it shows your substandard education. No reasonable person would believe anyone would read that much drivel. If some famed atheist, like that Richard Dawkins everyone has been droning on about, had left the post, curiosity might be generated. But you are an extremely mediocre mind, and your belief that you have generated any desire by people to spend that much time reading your posts constitutes hubris gone awry.
I strongly suggest that you learn to practice word economy and shorten your nonsense. Granted, being concise and precise is difficult, but you have no choice if you want your words read.
Tiffany
Free Child Of The Universe said
Sorry about the lengthiness…
Granted, this is very difficult for me because I am used to two paged explanations of things. I read all the pages of my textbooks for school, (which have lengthy explainations), and am required to write lengthy essays with as much detail and fact as possible. I’m not used to writing short responses.
The Kiss rule, (Keep it short stupid), does not favor me. With finals coming up I’m going to keep my present writing habits, (I have to fill pages worth of writing). My teachers are delighted by their lengthiness.
Anyway, seeing as how virtually all my points are being ignored by your community because not matter how hard I try my inane writing does not appease you I am taking my arguments elsewhere where length is not an issue.
My hubris is very likely awry, I find myself wondering why I am still on this site. My guess is I have unresolved anger issues from when I was a former Christian and cut myself for the almighty and I REALLY, REALLY don’t know how to channel this negative energy into something positive…
Repeatedly visiting here has been counterproductive and is shaping into a bad habit and addiction. I am just so angry at all of organized religion right now it keeps tearing my life apart by ruining a good friendship, having made me feel bad about myself etc which led to cutting. In my confused state I keep coming here trying to decipher why in the world people continue to believe in religion and God.
I am just going to exhale slowly and unplug the computer or ban this site from my internet options. I have to stop coming here already! I don’t want to go back into depression!
GOOD-BYE!
I can only imagine your relief and “thank riddance”. Congratulations.
Forgive me of my arrogance, I REALLY should have stopped coming here after my first post. That one was actually short and sweet and to the point. I’ve come to the realization that I cannot write when agitated or upset. I tend to just unleash a torrent of raw emotion that unfiltered sprawls pages and pages. I should just write a book and leave it at that.
I’m going make myself forget about ever coming here because I really need to calm myself down and go where the happy atheists gather.
P.S. I AM NOT INBRED! I HAVE VERY HIGH GRADES! MY FAMILY IS VERY RICH!
I was tired of your accusations.
Free Child Of The Universe said
Will you and the moderator please delete all my posts? I want no evidence of my presence here and leave happy. I have continued to feel worse and worse with every visit and this would greatly relieve me. Wipe my slate clean and let me begin fresh again in my life. I keep re-reading my former posts and my obsessive behavior is starting to make me uneasy. I am under a lot of stress right now with studying and all and this has just made it worse. Please? Please? Please? I am pathetically begging you to delete my posts. Just label it unchristian and leave it at that. Tiffany will still sound superior if my words are erased. Thank you.
Free Child Of The Universe said
Really, I sound quite pathetic because I am feeling that way now. Just delete all my posts they’re quite embarrassing. I couldn’t master the KISS rule, (Keep it short stupid), among other things. Also nobody cares or needs to be informed of my past cutting.
PLEASE delete my posts for the love of all that is holy. (Well not really, I am just using a figure of speech). Just please delete them for me, I would among your community would appreciate that.
Thank you.
Free Child Of The Universe said
I meant I would and your community would greatly appreciate that; excuse the typo.
Tiffany Wellsley said
Child,
I can only guess that the Moderator hasn’t removed your posts because their moronic contents reveal how bankrupt atheism is and can only help to draw more people to Christ. Regarding you leaving the board, I doubt that will occur. Many people, like Bobby G, have promised they were leaving for good, only to rear their ugly heads again.
Tiffany
blueollie said
514: Free Child, it is called CONSEQUENCES of one’s actions. You made the posts; these are now the property of the blog owners. Just because you are rich (or think that you are) doesn’t mean that you are shielded from the consequences of your actions. After all, Miss California probably wishes she hadn’t have made topless photos, but she did.
So your posts remain; learn to live with it. After all, you won’t have Mommy and Daddy to clean up after you for the rest of your life.
Tiffany Wellsley said
Blueollie,
I didn’t even notice Child bragging about his family’s wealth and his educational achievements because I didn’t read the post. Just a moment ago, I noticed those claims at the end (I have yet to read the middle 95 percent of the post and probably never will.)
Those who actually use the word “rich” to describe themselves are usually quite destitute. And those who rave about their grades are usually quite stupid. I see no evidence here that would dispute either truism.
Tiffany
Free Child Of The Universe said
I am not a guy. I only retaliated with the stupid bragging because I took offense to being called inbred. Normally, I avoid mentioning that.
Free Child Of The Universe said
Mentioning my family’s wealth and my grades etc.
Free Child Of The Universe said
I do not represent the whole of atheism Blueollie neither does my opinion constitute for all of its aspects. That being said Tiffany believes no sane Christian will read my posts because they are too lengthy, controversial and apparently straight from Satan’s lips. So what is the point of leaving them to rot on the website?
If you wish to cleanse or purify this site you would exorcist my posts as they question your “pure” ethics, condone and describe my self abusive past religious behavior, mention evolution and the Big Bang as valid fact. I doubt an atheist would even bother reading my posts because the majority are already self assured and hold strong faith in themselves. They would rather listen to Richard Dawkins, (as I do), for inspiration.
Atheism itself is not bankrupt because it is continuously increasing in the number of non-believers and gaining rapid popularity. Rather it is Christianity that is losing attendance.
Now will you please delete my posts? I made a mess of them and unlike Miss California my words will not cause a public media disturbance or scandal.
Will you do yourself and me a favor and delete them please?
Tiffany Wellsley said
Child,
You are a liar as well as an imbecile (and a bigot). Several posts up, you said “GOOD-BYE!” You said you would be leaving for good. You then left three separate posts, imploring us to remove your previous posts. Yet, before the ink had dried on your posts, you came right back, posting three replies in rapid succession on the same thread (when no one had even responded to the previous ones). Your arrogance is astonishing.
You are also a bigot. You said you left the comments about how your family is “very rich” and you make “good grades” to rebut the claim that you’re inbred. In other words, you believe that poor people and those without a strong education are the ones who engage in incest. What a horrible stereotype! Your bigotry against poor people is astonishing.
My grandmother had an old saying, “There’s rich trash, and there’s poor trash, but it’s all trash, just the same.” She might as well have been saying that to you.
Tiffany
Free Child Of The Universe said
I really do admire your charisma Tiffany. You always manage to get the upper hand when conversing with me. I admit I wasn’t being considerate by associating inbred people with poverty and poor education. I really didn’t intend to imply that instead my fury initiated from your tasteless and unnecessary insult kept me from thinking clearly.
Yes I do want to leave but would rest easier knowing all my posts are deleted. The original article is smaller than the sum of all my posts. The article itself is undeserving of 522 comments.
Just delete the bothersome posts. I am still leaving either way, asking to delete my posts is my plea. Show a little mercy on your behalf and delete them. Else, leave them to rot on the website so you may tear at my psyche like vultures whilst scavenging my words.
Tiffany Wellsley said
Child,
First, I’m not the Moderator. I have no power to ban posts. For whatever reason, the Moderator has decided your posts should stay, notwithstanding your request otherwise. As I mentioned, the decision is probably based on the fact that your inane posts will turn even more people to Christianity by revealing how ridiculous atheist thought is.
Second, your comments are trivial. I doubt anyone gives them one nanosecond of thought.
Third, leave already! Stop the nonsense! You promised to leave so get out, once and for all! Retain the tiniest shred of dignity you have remaining by living up to your word. If you leave one more post here, you will demonstrate you have no integrity whatsoever (and what a shock that will be!).
Tiffany
Free Child Of The Universe said
Okay then. Moderator please delete my posts. That is all.
Free Child Of The Universe said
I have waited… PLEASE DELETE MY POSTS!
blueollie said
525: you don’t have that power. Besides I shall copy all of your posts and post them elsewhere.
Does the word C O N S E Q U E N C E S mean anything at all to you, you pathetic little snowflake?
Tiffany Wellsley said
Blueollie,
What is wrong with that cry baby? She/he/it leaves a plethora of pompous posts, then demands they be removed. Plus, why does it care? It didn’t even leave its real name. “Free Child of the Universe” is a common expression among hippies, so the fake name it used isn’t even something unique to it. No one can trace to stupid posts back to it. Honestly, someone didn’t get enough discipline as a child.
Tiffany
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